| Re: Mayflower lands at Plymouth Rock - OTD 11 Dec (1620) Posted by grahame at 19:16, 11th December 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Bit different nowadays..........
Yes - but yet the Pilgrim Fathers were not entirely welcomed to the New World ... in their lil boat, just as we don't welcome newcomers in Kent in their lil boats. And the text of the link I shared backing up the article talks of very similar reasons for people making these incredible journeys 400 years later.
A serious - VERY serious - issue for us [personally] from the National Law Review has just come to our attention - perhaps not the thread, board or even the forum for it, but - gulp!
Wait, What? What is Trump Doing Now about US citizenship.
The Exclusive Citizenship Act of 2025 is now before the U.S. Congress. It will fundamentally change how the United States treats dual (or multiple) nationality.
What the Bill Actually Says. Will I Lose My U.S. Citizenship?
The bill makes it unlawful to hold U.S. citizenship at the same time as any foreign citizenship. If you voluntarily acquire a foreign citizenship after the law’s effective date, you will face the relinquisment of your U.S. citizenship. Further, if you are currently a dual citizen, the law requires renouncement of either U.S. Citizenship or your foreign citizenship no later than one year after enactment. The bill is a proposal (not law). Congress is considering the action. If successful, the law will face significant constitutional and practical hurdles.
The Exclusive Citizenship Act of 2025 is now before the U.S. Congress. It will fundamentally change how the United States treats dual (or multiple) nationality.
What the Bill Actually Says. Will I Lose My U.S. Citizenship?
The bill makes it unlawful to hold U.S. citizenship at the same time as any foreign citizenship. If you voluntarily acquire a foreign citizenship after the law’s effective date, you will face the relinquisment of your U.S. citizenship. Further, if you are currently a dual citizen, the law requires renouncement of either U.S. Citizenship or your foreign citizenship no later than one year after enactment. The bill is a proposal (not law). Congress is considering the action. If successful, the law will face significant constitutional and practical hurdles.
| Re: Mayflower lands at Plymouth Rock - OTD 11 Dec (1620) Posted by Clan Line at 18:57, 11th December 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Mayflower lands at Plymouth Rock - OTD 11 Dec (1620) Posted by grahame at 00:21, 11th December 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The Mayflower landed at Plymouth Rock in New England on December 11th, 1620
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/the-mayflower-and-plymouth-rock
The Mayflower had set sail on September 6th with 102 passengers and 30 crew crammed into a ship just over 100 feet long. In the second month of its voyage it was hit by storm-force gales. It was buffeted, sprang leaks, and saw its main beam crack.
Is there a parallel today, from 405 years ago, of small and overcrowded vessels making crossings over choppy waters to reach out for a new life?
The history of the early settlements reminds us that America was settled by two types of immigrants, those that today we would call asylum seekers and economic migrants. Some came to seek liberty and safety, and endured immense hardships to gain them. Others came seeking to improve their lot, and many went through years of privation before successfully establishing themselves.

The Landing of the Pilgrims by Henry A. Bacon (1877) - public domain















