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Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378064/17260/5]
Posted by grahame at 13:38, 11th August 2026
 
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), ....

Indeed, but it's miles from where the Routemaster buses will be, which I suspect many members will be reaching by train or (in my case) connecting bus.

Trump hid in catering truck in secret plane swap over Iran threat, reports say
In "Your rights and redress" [378063/32352/6]
Posted by grahame at 13:34, 11th August 2026
 
From The BBC

Donald Trump secretly swapped planes as he left a Nato summit in Turkey last month, as part of an elaborate ruse in response to a possible Iranian threat, US media report.

The US president boarded Air Force One in view of television cameras before being transported to a military aircraft with the help of a catering truck, the Washington Post said. Journalists and some White House staff on board did not know he had been smuggled out.

Officials told the BBC's US partner CBS News that the US had detected a credible Iranian threat to fire a missile at the plane. The White House has not confirmed the secret switch.

Trump had earlier said he was Iran's "number one target" during the summit in Ankara.

If you are travelling and there is a security / safety issue with your transport, should you be informed?   
How about just telling the VIPs as the rest are expendable? 

Having assassinated the previous set or leaders of Iran, in my view Donald Trump has made himself a target in the other direction with the same legitimacy as his actions that lead to the death of those Iranian leaders.  Put it another way "he has only himself of blame.  These are personal views only.


Re: Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [378062/32322/30]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 13:16, 11th August 2026
 
I've used w3w a few times, and have the app on my phone (how very modern!)

I don't like that the w3w for my house seems to be different every time I look.  Maybe it's got something to do with the house being a 30 bedroom palace?   

Re: Delay Repay bouncing around
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [378061/32325/3]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:15, 11th August 2026
Already liked by grahame, PrestburyRoad
 
It comes entirely from the taxpayer.

Until the rail operations are also the taxpayer's responsibility, doesn't this remove [a/the] financial incentive from the operating company to run trains on time, and to make connections? 

Absolutely. It's perverse. A safety net for poor performance.

Linking senior TOC pay to customer satisfaction ratings...........now there's an incentive that would have got results! 

How would you both like to see Delay Repay operate in the very near future when the transition to GBR is complete?

Scrap it entirely so it's in line with other forms of public transport? 
Get rid of the 15-29 minute refund band? 
Keep it largely as is, accepting the flaws because it means passengers receive compensation? 
Something else?

I'd like to see performance improve to a level where the need to pay it becomes much less frequent.


10th August 2026 - Heathrow train reductions due to flooding
In "Transport for London" [378060/32351/46]
Posted by grahame at 13:11, 11th August 2026
 
From yesterday - 10th August 2026 - The BBC - did we miss this?

Railway services to Heathrow Airport are being severely disrupted following the closure of a tunnel for safety reasons, Network Rail says.

Elizabeth line services between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow Terminals 4 and 5 were suspended until 11:00 BST while Heathrow Express trains have been reduced by 50% with just two trains an hour from London Paddington.

Network Rail says "major disruption is expected until the end of the day" because of a water leak limiting services to one line and that tickets will be accepted on the Piccadilly line and buses 105, 278, 350 and 482.

Heathrow Express is not currently accepting Elizabeth line tickets, which has infuriated some passengers at Paddington.

Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378059/31355/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:29, 11th August 2026
 
Expect the (now common this year) KRS measures to be in place from tomorrow or Wednesday through the end of service on Friday.

And on the exceptionally hot days you would expect the usual extra delays and disruption that occur.

"Extreme heat" warning issued for Thursday in addition to the amber warnings, potentially 38 degrees - surely there will be some effort from GWR to encourage/enable people to change their travel plans where possible without hitting them financially?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/ce8ljn1ngg2o

Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378058/17260/5]
Posted by PhilWakely at 12:10, 11th August 2026
 
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), White Horse & Bratton Camp to explore, watch the suicidal hang-gliding people throwing themselves off the escarpment, lots of birds of prey, plenty of free parking, you sometimes see RAF A400Ms flying by - BELOW you ! .............and there is usually an ice cream van in attendance.

I believe the area behind the car park is a free running area for dogs unlike the White Horse and Camp area where there are often sheep.

Wonderful views on a sunny day, but the wind is biting!

Re: Delay Repay bouncing around
In "Smoke and Mirrors" [378057/32325/3]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:45, 11th August 2026
 
It comes entirely from the taxpayer.

Until the rail operations are also the taxpayer's responsibility, doesn't this remove [a/the] financial incentive from the operating company to run trains on time, and to make connections? 

Absolutely. It's perverse. A safety net for poor performance.

Linking senior TOC pay to customer satisfaction ratings...........now there's an incentive that would have got results! 

How would you both like to see Delay Repay operate in the very near future when the transition to GBR is complete?

Scrap it entirely so it's in line with other forms of public transport? 
Get rid of the 15-29 minute refund band? 
Keep it largely as is, accepting the flaws because it means passengers receive compensation? 
Something else?

Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378056/31355/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:30, 11th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Expect the (now common this year) KRS measures to be in place from tomorrow or Wednesday through the end of service on Friday.

And on the exceptionally hot days you would expect the usual extra delays and disruption that occur.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378055/31359/18]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:25, 11th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Intriguing.

So if this data is to be believed, a Friday afternoon train leaving Paddington headed for the Westcountry for one of the busiest event weekends of the year, with the previous train having been cancelled, has "many" seats available throughout with the exception of First class which is full (at those prices there must have been some very rich people on board, or perhaps the GWR management surfing team travelling on staff passes?)

I'd say either the data has a whiff of fertiliser about it - a case of "more sensors than usual requiring repair at the same time?", or perhaps if accurate and the train was as lightly loaded as the data indicates suggests that people have given up on relying on the train and have gone by road instead - or perhaps surfed all the way? 

In that particular case I don't think the data can be believed.  Though it doesn't say First class is full, as the majority of First class seating is in coach K which has 'many' seats available.

From experience, recordings 'on train' are usually correct or very accurate about 95% of the time, but there's an extra level of data transfer to get loadings from the Train Management System on the train to the app, so I don't know how often that might fail.

Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378054/17260/5]
Posted by Clan Line at 10:37, 11th August 2026
 
Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Westbury White Horse is always a good place to go. Great views (of trains too !), White Horse & Bratton Camp to explore, watch the suicidal hang-gliding people throwing themselves off the escarpment, lots of birds of prey, plenty of free parking, you sometimes see RAF A400Ms flying by - BELOW you ! .............and there is usually an ice cream van in attendance.

I believe the area behind the car park is a free running area for dogs unlike the White Horse and Camp area where there are often sheep.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [378053/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:19, 11th August 2026
 
1W11 0553 London Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled between Oxford and Great Malvern due to unknown cause (ZW).

Facilities on the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.

08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.

15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time

Edit - 15:23 and 18:02 cancellations no longer showing on JourneyCheck

Wales 10 year tax exemption for EV chargers
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378052/32350/40]
Posted by John D at 09:46, 11th August 2026
 
Wales has announced a 10 year 100% rates relief for EV charging ers to encourage the switch to electric cars

The move, announced today by the Cabinet Minister for Finance, intends to remove a potential barrier to investment at a critical stage in the growth of electric vehicles.

The 100% non-domestic rates relief will support the continued rollout of the necessary infrastructure to help drivers make the switch, particularly in areas currently underserved by charging points.

In the current financial year, local authorities will be asked to award the relief using their discretionary powers. Where relevant, this will allow relief to be backdated to the start of the 2024-2025 financial year.

Regulations will be brought forward later this year to place the relief on a statutory footing from 2027-2028 to 2035-2036. Subject to Senedd approval, this will give ratepayers and local authorities certainty in the years ahead.

So are we now at point of encouraging electric cars, but no obvious further transition to electric buses or electric trains in Wales

I wonder if this is a precursor to more electrified trains (but takes much longer for any transport announcement to churn through system).  My hunch is 4 electric sections upto about 15 miles each (Bridgend - Port Talbot area, Gowerton-Llanelli area, Cardiff Queen Street to Barry, Severn Tunnel-Chepstow) as would allow BEMUs to take over and release the 197s to lengthen trains in diesel areas

But anyone in meantime find it odd that electrifying cars seem to be the priority

https://www.gov.wales/wales-plugs-in-to-a-decade-of-rates-relief-to-power-up-ev-charging

Meet the Manager BBC Radio Cornwall 11th August 2026
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [378051/32349/49]
Posted by GBM at 08:10, 11th August 2026
 
Mark Hopwood on the mid morning phone-in from 10am this morning.

Re: Homeward bound - thoughts at the end of an Interrail pass,
In "Introductions and chat" [378050/32327/1]
Posted by grahame at 08:05, 11th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Number 12, appended with 'sham'?

Mark

My first visit there was ... selected ... by the similarity of name.  Turns out to be a lovely town if somewhat overrun with tourists on their Danube cruises during the day / their stops, and with a lot of people visiting the Abbey on the hill who - however - come in their coaches and don't come down so much into the town.  Very much a centre / start and end point for walking and cycling

It has a train each way every 30 minutes and a population of around 6,000 (80,000 including the surrounding area administered from there).

Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [378049/28556/25]
Posted by GBM at 07:32, 11th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
2C00 0533 Plymouth to Bodmin Parkway
 This service is partially cancelled
This service was cancelled between Bodmin Parkway and Penzance due to a problem with the train (M8).
175111 had a hiccup and arrived at Bodmin 39 down.
How sulk

Cancellations to services between Plymouth and Penzance
Following a fault on a train between Plymouth and Penzance the line towards Penzance has now reopened.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:45 11/08.ing in Down Lostwithiel Goods Loop

Re: Solar eclipse 12/08/2026
In "Across the West" [378048/32340/26]
Posted by Mark A at 22:19, 10th August 2026

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378047/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:59, 10th August 2026
 
This has now become a very significant topic here on the Coffee Shop forum.

I have moved and merged several previous topics here, which all relate specifically to the subject of 'Imber Bus' events. This is therefore our definitive topic on that subject, including all historic posts: as ever, nothing has been deleted, and the original post headings have been preserved wherever possible.

I continue to look forward to meeting some of you at Imber on Saturday. 


Re: Solar eclipse 12/08/2026
In "Across the West" [378046/32340/26]
Posted by Mark A at 20:55, 10th August 2026
 
The link has the path of the March 2015 eclipse. About 86% at Bath. Wednesday's will be ~93% at Bath, ~96% at Cape Cornwall.

Mark

http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2015_GoogleMapFull.html?Lat=52.71505&Lng=-4.83316&Zoom=8&LC=1


Re: Homeward bound - thoughts at the end of an Interrail pass,
In "Introductions and chat" [378045/32327/1]
Posted by Mark A at 20:32, 10th August 2026
 
Number 12, appended with 'sham'?

Mark

Re: Solar eclipse 12/08/2026
In "Across the West" [378044/32340/26]
Posted by stuving at 20:30, 10th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
I've seen no sign the main TV channels have picked up on the eclipse, at least not so as to get it mentioned in listings or EPGs. Which is odd, as while it may be "only a partial", it falls during live broadcast segments for most of them. The start coincides with news for BBC1 and ITV, and local news I'm sure will cover it. C4 news will see "peak dark", and for BBC2 and ITV1 that comes during sports OBs. I'm sure the technical side can make sure they have the right filters etc, but how will the commentators for the athletics in Birmingham or the football at Croke Park cover it?

Well, I just heard Steve Cram ask "will we get a view of the eclipse on Wednesday?" Andrew Cotter didn't know, but at least the commentators can set about doing their research (or getting it done).

Re: Coffee Mugs - how would you choose your favourite?
In "Introductions and chat" [378043/32348/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:28, 10th August 2026
 
I have met Coffee Shop forum member 'broadgage', and he seems to do remarkably well on that diet.

CfN. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378042/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:23, 10th August 2026
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be terminated at Gloucester.
It will no longer call at Cheltenham Spa.

It is being delayed at Westbury.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378041/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:09, 10th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Public houses will also be available at Warminster, Market Lavington and West Lavington, along with the reopened Kings Head at Chitterne.
...
Morris Dancing at Imber (1000-1100), Market Lavington Museum & The Green Man (1200-1400) and Tilshead (1500-1600).

That's all fine with me - but I will still need to purchase some fridge magnets.


Re: Homeward bound - thoughts at the end of an Interrail pass,
In "Introductions and chat" [378040/32327/1]
Posted by grahame at 19:19, 10th August 2026
 
And so in summary, someone asked my favourite place the other day.  Sorry, Tom, no single place. And a social media post asked a whole group "what’s one place you visited that completely exceeded your expectations?".  Can't answer that either, but here are 20 places I've been to this year and would happily recommend


Re: Cornish mainline and branch line delays - ongoing discussion
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [378039/28556/25]
Posted by FarWestJohn at 19:18, 10th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
How do the train crew rosters work at Truro? Falmouth trains are regularly cancelled at short notice and main line trains held awaiting crew.
The replacement staff seem to come on trains that these days are regularly very late. Therefore delays are amplified.
On Saturday a two coach 175 that was packed with standing passengers because the previous two London trains had been cancelled from Penzance.
The 175 was then held for ages awaiting a late down train for a crew member to join it. Some passengers gave up and got off.
Seems a weird way to run a railway?

Re: Coffee Mugs - how would you choose your favourite?
In "Introductions and chat" [378038/32348/1]
Posted by broadgage at 19:14, 10th August 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
I very seldom drink tea or coffee. Beer or water only for regular consumption, with brandy or port or gin, for a treat.

Re: Solar eclipse 12/08/2026
In "Across the West" [378037/32340/26]
Posted by Mark A at 18:49, 10th August 2026
 
It's odd, the amount of light provided by a mostly obscured sun's disk. After the 1999 event, someone kindly provided me with a set of figures from a data logger that they'd set up at Carn Brea (the hill near Land's End rather than the one above Redruth). Despite, subjectively, the light levels dropping during a partial eclipse - while also gaining peculiar qualities - that plunge in light levels during the total phase then comes as more than a bit of a shock - and then, if partly cloudy, the abruptly dynamic appearance of the sky as the shadow tracks across...

Mark

That graph is misleading, or at least its annotation is. The physical light level (in lux) varies almost linearly over most of the eclipse, with no sharp dip. It's the subjective brightness that we notice that gives the rather logarithmic shape in that graph. A cube-root-law model fits the eye better, but the shape on a graph looks very similar to logarithmic.

From what I recall, if you don't know there's going to be a partial solar eclipse, even a near miss, you probably won't notice it at all. Even if you are outdoors in bright sunlight, you won't be looking at the face of the sun so as to observe its shape change. The dimming is very slow and subjectively it doesn't darken much. That's why a total eclipse can sneak up on you, until at the last minute the world suddenly goes all dark. That goes for birds too.


I must see if I still have the figures - I hold my hand up to simply slapping them into Excel and asking it to plot a graph.

In one way the change in lighting during a partial eclipse wouldn't be noticed by many, things do go a bit weird though - shadows described as sharper, and the illumination gaining a metallic quality.

I've just looked out my photos of the March 20th 2015 partial eclipse and was surprised at how deep it was, yet, subjectively the hit to light levels though noticeable was as that graph might suggest. The light, though, did gain a strange quality and then of course all those little crescent shadows beneath trees.

Mark

Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378036/17260/5]
Posted by grahame at 18:44, 10th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
To meet up, Imber Church is always very busy with long queues on bus days, though worthwhile for me anyway to spend some time there and catch up very briefly with old friends.    Does anyone fancy choosing / recommending anywhere that might be slightly quieter even on this day?

Imber Church open for viewing and refreshments from 10am to 6pm;

The refurbished Market Lavington Museum will be open again in the Old School House next to the village church and serving cream teas until 5pm;

Light refreshments also available at the village halls in Tilshead and Chitterne, at St.Arbucks Community Coffee House in Market Lavington and also in Warminster at the Beans & Bits Cafe at Warminster Station and at the Chapel of St. Lawrence on the High Street.

Public houses will also be available at Warminster, Market Lavington and West Lavington, along with the reopened Kings Head at Chitterne.

A small transport sales stall will be available inside Tilshead village hall.

Exhibition of Imber and Imberbus related cartoons at Warminster Library and a Dinosaur trail around the town for families to follow.

Performances by the Bratton Silver Band, plus displays by the London Transport Museum and the Thames Valley & Great Western Omnibus Trust.

Morris Dancing at Imber (1000-1100), Market Lavington Museum & The Green Man (1200-1400) and Tilshead (1500-1600).

Re: 15th August 2026 - Buses to Imber, Wiltshire
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378035/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:34, 10th August 2026
 
Hmm.  My train from NLS at 08:45 to WMN (via BRI) should get me there at 10:10.

We can then meet up somewhere in Warminster, before yomping over those artillery ranges to Imber.

(No, actually: we'll get on one of the buses - even though it will be less exciting. )

CfN. 

 
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