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It was Black Dog Halt, rather than Black Hound: see also https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21932.msg338471#msg338471 

 
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....

 
It applies from Eurostar, mind.

Onto Eurostar, you need to purchase a ticket to London Terminals CV, I think only from ticket offices or on-train if no ticket office available.

Also, I *think* it does apply if your bus or tube is cancelled, certainly n London.

 
I was caught out a few days ago by RTT showing a 5 car 175 on the Newquay branch!

 
11:35 London Paddington to Newquay due 16:45
Facilities on the 11:35 London Paddington to Newquay due 16:45.
This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident earlier today.
Catering is not available.

 
Neither will this
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:08 will be starting late from London Paddington.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.

 

There are two elements to the changes.

The Horsefair is being pedestrianised. That means anything that currently uses it (most of the buses headed east basically) needs to move to using Fairfax Street instead.

Separately Union Street is being made into a bus only two way street with much better access to and from the Haymarket. These works again require services thst currently use it to be moved until the works are done.

As it happens yes the longer term plan for Union Street is for it to form part of a "rapid transit" cross city route. But from what I've read that just sounds like more Metrobus style services rather than trams sadly.

And in terms of The Galleries work I must expect that the work when it eventually happens will impact Fairfax Street so I suspect some of the routes will need to temporarily move to that reopened two way Union Street.

 

A lot of these routes have been doing that for years though, with the inbound services going via Bond Street and the outbound services snaking through Broadmead. E.g. the 45.

If people who use the other routes are able to handle it then so can people who use the 1 and 2. Especially as the longer term plans are to bring back at the the number 2 to Union Street when the works are done.

 
As a consequence no doubt.

Won't be a pleasant experience......

10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09
Facilities on the 10:02 London Paddington to Penzance due 15:09.
Service full and standing.

 
From Wikipedia:

The Wantage Tramway Company was a two-mile tramway that carried passengers and freight between the Oxfordshire town of Wantage and Wantage Road Station on the Great Western Main Line in England.

Formed in 1873 to link Wantage Road station with its terminus at Mill Street, Wantage the line was built parallel to what was then the Besselsleigh Turnpike, and now the A338.

The tramway closed to passengers in 1925 and to goods traffic in 1945.

 

Makes sense. With calls at Black Hound and Stanley Bridge.

 
Thanks, both. That's all sensible.

Mark

 

Ah, to the reverie I'd just added a through platform at Chippenham and started Graham's bucolic train at Calne.

Mark

 
I am reading the question a little differnt to ChrisB - hence my answer is a little different.   

If you are travelling on an off peak ticket and a National Rail service goes wrong such that your connection, or one of a series of connections, drops you into the peak then you are allowed to travel on the first available peak train rather than having to wait for the peak to be over.  Whether or not that's written into the conditions of travel or is somewhere else or is an unwritten rule, I know not.

If the error is yours such that the miss the last off peak train, or the connecting service that fails is not a national network one, I dont think the dispensation applies - so if you are delayed from Chesham or Brussels or Ryde, tough?

 
Hmm. There are different answers for different scenarios.

If your train is late, you have to wait for it unfortunately.

If it is cancelled, you can travel on the service afterwards, and indeed, if you are aware early enough, the train before.

If you are on multiple connections, If any train is late, you have to still travel on it & catch the next available service(s) of later connections. If you suffer a cancellation, the above applies to that journey & later connections can be made as you arrive for them.

 
In the scenario that someone's travelling on an off-peak ticket and their intended train is cancelled/runs late resulting in the next train available is a peak time departure, do terms and conditions allow them to travel on the peak time service?

This might also involve a cross-London journey, where their inbound train is late/cancelled and they find themselves at a London terminal after the evening peak is under way.

Mark

 

... but then grahame woke up. 

 
With thanks to TaplowGreen and GBM for posting, I've merged both topics here, for clarity.

CfN. 

 

Indeed: see https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31667.0

 
Some landowners do allow public access to their private land and paths, often closing the latter for one day a year to prevent claims that  continuous access might lead to legal claims that they become fully public.

From the Savernake Estate website: "Though it is private property, the Forest's owners permit extensive public access. However, visitors are asked to note that there are NO vehicular rights of way, nor any public footpaths, anywhere in the Forest. To maintain its private status (especially to prevent the creation of vehicular rights of way) Savernake Forest's roads have to be shut on one day a year - usually the first working day of each year - in a joint operation by the Savernake Estate and their tenants the Forestry Commission. On that one day every road into the Forest is physically barriered and all cars are turned away ... Pedestrians may walk where they like, though they are asked to respect the few signs protecting the various groups of private houses scattered through the Forest."

(OK, this relates to vehicular access, but the same principal is applied elsewhere to pedestrian use.)

 

And no sooner had I posted that than ...

Revenue Protection in action.  The train manager(ess) had requested a young couple to alight with her at Zwickau and they stood dutifully behind her as the train pulled in.  But as the doors opened they dashed off along the train. The train manageress indicated their movement to three revenue protection colleagues waiting on the platform, and they scuttled along the the next door.  When I got off, the manageress and her colleagues were in discussion on the platform with the young people, and after the train had left I saw them waling across the main station concourse with the thee revenue folks around them rather like one sees a cluster of nay ships around a convoy in films.  I have no idea what rule(s) these young people had broken, nor whether or not they were known regular transgressors, but it did provide a reminder that even a country with open stations - free from barriers - has teeth to catch up with those whom they suspect are not following the rules.

 

Timely example this morning!

 
Note to Mods.

TG and I posted at similar times.
My post is at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=32303.0

 
Cancellations to services between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot
Due to the emergency services dealing with an incident between Exeter St Davids and Newton Abbot the line is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 10:00 01/08.

Thoughts with all involved.

Not sure if it's
1J74 0641 Plymouth to London Paddington at Exeter St Thomas
or
2F08 0710 Paignton to Exmouth at Starcross

 
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/person-hit-train-between-exeter-11088285?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Between Exeter and Newton Abbott, a number of services to/from Devon and Cornwall being cancelled or starting/finishing short.

 

Indeed - and I am struck in so much of my continental travel as to just what a variety of things people have with them and how space is provided for the most part for ... so much. Luggage, push chairs and buggies, bicycles, mobility aids, and even the single carriage local trains we travelled on yesterday - 2 bicycles, two pushchairs - one with a baby and one an enormous double unit, one mobility device, luggage in the form of big hard-shelled cased and packs - and we all made room for each other and there was space for us to adjust and be pleasant about it as we pootled along the main line between major stations, stopping at intermediate villages as and when someone had pressed the "request stop" button or was wanting to join.     The trains were modern, had fully accessible loos and level boarding, and were pleasantly busy.   Running for the most part every hour, on single track lines they had the odd pause while we waited for another - or a freight - coming the other way.  Many of the old stations though are decrepit / falling apart, and so I can't give you a totally rosy story.   The train manager checks and sells tickets and it would be a challenge, I suspect, to travel without paying here!

I can just imagine ... a little bay platform at Chippenham, people connecting into it from the London express, and calling at Lacock, Melksham, Staverton, Trowbridge, White Horse and Westbury ... overtaken there by the international express from South Wales to the Solent, and carrying on Frome, Witham, Bruton, Castle Cary - further connections - Queen's Camel, Yeovil Pen Mill, connection with another similar train headed for Exeter, then Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Eversholt, Cattistock, Maiden Newton, Grimstone, Dorchester, Upwey and Weymouth.

 


Oh if those 196s  are anything like our class 197s sports mode is good but they drink diesel and ad blue

 
I have made a little tweak to the subject line - it’s Taff’s Well, not Taff Wells

 
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