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Lower Thames Crossing, between Tilbury in Essex and Gravesend in Kent In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362348/30367/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:33, 16th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
UK's largest road tunnel project awarded £590m

A project to build the UK's largest road tunnel has been granted £590m by the government.
Constructing the Lower Thames Crossing, linking Tilbury in Essex and Gravesend in Kent, will cost an estimated £10bn. Plans for the 14.5-mile (23km) route were approved in March after a 16-year process that has already cost £1.2bn.
Chancellor Rachel Reeves said the crossing would aid "smoother, less congested passage of vital goods from Europe to our regions". It came as part of a £1bn package to improve transport infrastructure across England, announced on Monday.
The government said it was looking to source private finance to build the Lower Thames Crossing, branding it a "national priority".
National Highways hoped the road would reduce traffic at the Dartford Crossing by 20%.
Construction was expected to begin in 2026 ahead of an expected opening by 2032.

"This is a turning point for our national infrastructure, and we're backing it with funding to support thousands of jobs and connect communities," Reeves said.
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander added: "This project is essential for improving the resilience of a key freight route and is critical to our long term trade with Europe."
The road will link the A2 and M2 in Kent with the A13 and M25 in Thurrock. About 2.6 miles (4.2km) of the route is to be underground, with northbound and southbound tunnels running next to each other beneath the Thames.
The funding announcement was welcomed by Logistics UK, which represents the transport and logistics sector.
"Efficient logistics with minimal delays is critical to the delivery of the government's growth agenda, and our members are delighted to hear that funding has been made available to start work on the long-planned Lower Thames Crossing, after a decade of holdups at this vital interchange," said policy director Kevin Green. "It is imperative that the government also sets out a plan for providing and securing the full funding required to complete the project – our members deserve to be able to deliver efficiently for the industry they support, so that the economy can benefit."
However, campaigners have raised concerns about ancient woodland being impacted by the works.
Chris Todd, director of Transport Action Network, previously said the decision was "absolute madness". He added: "The only way that the government can afford this white elephant would be to take money from all the other nations and regions in the UK."

A project to build the UK's largest road tunnel has been granted £590m by the government.
Constructing the Lower Thames Crossing, linking Tilbury in Essex and Gravesend in Kent, will cost an estimated £10bn. Plans for the 14.5-mile (23km) route were approved in March after a 16-year process that has already cost £1.2bn.
Chancellor Rachel Reeves said the crossing would aid "smoother, less congested passage of vital goods from Europe to our regions". It came as part of a £1bn package to improve transport infrastructure across England, announced on Monday.
The government said it was looking to source private finance to build the Lower Thames Crossing, branding it a "national priority".
National Highways hoped the road would reduce traffic at the Dartford Crossing by 20%.
Construction was expected to begin in 2026 ahead of an expected opening by 2032.

"This is a turning point for our national infrastructure, and we're backing it with funding to support thousands of jobs and connect communities," Reeves said.
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander added: "This project is essential for improving the resilience of a key freight route and is critical to our long term trade with Europe."
The road will link the A2 and M2 in Kent with the A13 and M25 in Thurrock. About 2.6 miles (4.2km) of the route is to be underground, with northbound and southbound tunnels running next to each other beneath the Thames.
The funding announcement was welcomed by Logistics UK, which represents the transport and logistics sector.
"Efficient logistics with minimal delays is critical to the delivery of the government's growth agenda, and our members are delighted to hear that funding has been made available to start work on the long-planned Lower Thames Crossing, after a decade of holdups at this vital interchange," said policy director Kevin Green. "It is imperative that the government also sets out a plan for providing and securing the full funding required to complete the project – our members deserve to be able to deliver efficiently for the industry they support, so that the economy can benefit."
However, campaigners have raised concerns about ancient woodland being impacted by the works.
Chris Todd, director of Transport Action Network, previously said the decision was "absolute madness". He added: "The only way that the government can afford this white elephant would be to take money from all the other nations and regions in the UK."
Re: Tube driver knitting and watching TV In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362347/30361/51] Posted by a-driver at 10:08, 16th June 2025 Already liked by GBM | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Shows a pretty shocking level of entitlement and lack of managerial oversight though doesn't it? If he's breaching the rules like that, what else is he not doing properly? Definitely adds to the argument for installing platform edge doors and automating the lot.
Not really, a manager can't watch over every single tube driver constantly. Drivers are all adults and are fully aware of their responsibilities.
You either automate the lot or give driving back to the operator and get rid of ATO.
Re: Tube driver knitting and watching TV In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362345/30361/51] Posted by Noggin at 09:51, 16th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Shows a pretty shocking level of entitlement and lack of managerial oversight though doesn't it? If he's breaching the rules like that, what else is he not doing properly? Definitely adds to the argument for installing platform edge doors and automating the lot.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [362344/29726/18] Posted by Phil at 09:09, 16th June 2025 Already liked by TaplowGreen | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The sad thing is that it's a day when services DO run to schedule that's so rare it takes us by surprise.
Re: Tube driver knitting and watching TV In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362341/30361/51] Posted by a-driver at 08:09, 16th June 2025 Already liked by GBM, PhilWakely | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Almost beyond belief, but thankfully no longer employed on the railway........
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/tube-driver-caught-knitting-and-watching-video-on-his-phone-while-operating-northern-line-train/ar-AA1GH8in?ocid=socialshare
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/tube-driver-caught-knitting-and-watching-video-on-his-phone-while-operating-northern-line-train/ar-AA1GH8in?ocid=socialshare
That's a difficult one to call.
If all they are responsible for is opening and closing the doors, then you have an issue with what's known as 'Cognitive underload'. Basically it's where an individual's mental capacity is not fully utilised during a task, leading to potential issues like boredom, distraction, and decreased performance.
This individual is probably more alert than someone who open and closes the doors and ends up having a micro sleep between those duties. However, choosing to watch a video is far from the cleverest way of doing it, knitting though, I'm 50/50. You can do that activity and still have eyes on the road ahead.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362340/569/25] Posted by a-driver at 07:49, 16th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Probably true. It has the shortest journey time by road, good roads as well, so you don’t need a lot of coaches….. which would be a struggle to source on a Sunday, and the majority of journeys will be end to end.
In my opinion, that is pure rubbish. Hand points don't require much strength to operate. In respect of the Coombe Junction working, it's probably more strenuous going from ballast to train/train to ballast then operating the points...... and if you struggle going from ballast to train/train to ballast then you won't be considered fit to work trains.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362339/569/25] Posted by a-driver at 07:45, 16th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It’s definitely not the easiest to bustitute.
Coombe Junction, st keyne wishing well, and Causeland are completely inaccessible to a bus. Especially the ones that GWR have on standby for Cornwall mainline and branches today (a 15m triaxle coach)
But very few passengers will travel to Coombe Junction, St Keyne Wishing Well and Causeland. A taxi is provided for the handful that require those stations.
Re: Bus Service 205 In "Transport for London" [362337/30357/46] Posted by grahame at 07:06, 16th June 2025 Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That is probably because Eurostar didn't want to respond. They would have seen the consultation
There is a very long list of "stakeholders consulted with" - over 500 of them - which I presume were actively contacted. It does not include the operators of any of the railway services relevant here, nor Network Rail (station owners and managers). (Abellio is named but that will be for buses.) ASLEF and RMT are, however in the list, as is National Grid. It's enough to start people muttering about judicial reviews!
Reading the consultation report (110 pages) some things strike me. The very high proportion of people against the changes, and giving logical reasons. The postcode data of respondents and the mapping of them which does not go beyond a rather limited part of London (and no pointers off the map to any inputs from further afield). The accessibility issue - as I read it TfL answers "yes, it will inconvenience those who are less mobile or nervous - but it will also inconvenience those who do not have mobility restrictions and are confident, and that makes it OK".
You don't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Problem is, these eggs are fertile ground to build a proper integrated national and international service that's environmental and set for the future, whereas the omelette has bits of shell in it - edible for sure, but never less difficult and awkward to eat, and will put many off.
In my mind, I compare this to the breaking of connectional opportunities at Fishguard and Rosslare, rendering the route from the UK to Ireland a shadow of its former self at a time we should be encouraging international public transport.
The GWR input is notable in that it echos many of our thoughts for the passengers. Thank you GWR. I note GWR are classified as an "other" type responder rather than being placed in a more solicited category such as "providers of connecting services". The 205 is / was a London Rail Terminal connection bus. Why didn't TfL consult as a planned category with train operators who's customers are affected by this?
Performances like yesterday's will happen but should be so rare they take us by surprise. As something that happens all too often, and digging into the data the cancellations are again all "rail industry" rather than "act of God" attributable, this is not marketable to new and nervous users. The risk of mucking up people's plans to the extent of having them put off the railway for a long time to come is just too high.

On a service that was scheduled to run every 20 minutes, alternate cancellations may not be an issue that seriously damage people's whole day / plans. On a service that runs every 120 minutes, it renders what's left as unfit for the purpose of getting people around and if we can't fix it, why/should we bother?
Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362335/30362/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:05, 15th June 2025 Already liked by Western Pathfinder, JayMac, PhilWakely, GBM | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A brilliant clip, from Celebrity Mastermind: see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_4FmNwh5M

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362334/30362/30] Posted by JayMac at 21:36, 15th June 2025 Already liked by bradshaw, johnneyw, PrestburyRoad, PhilWakely, GBM, chuffed | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It is on or very near chalk.
Somewhere near Mid Hants Railway, there had the Retro Wheels and Rails event this weekend
Somewhere near Mid Hants Railway, there had the Retro Wheels and Rails event this weekend
VERY near the Mid Hants Railway. In fact, on it!
Finn and I were enjoying the retro weekend. He's pictured by the entrance to the old engine shed at Medstead & Four Marks station.
I'll maybe post more from the visit in the coming days. We did clock Walmington-on-Sea's finest patrolling Ropley station while supposedly 'guarding' an insolent German U Boat captain. Gunner 'Lofty' Sugden had apparently escaped the Royal Artillery concert party, made it home from Burma and joined the Home Guard.


I couldn't resist singing, "Whistle while you work, Hitler is a berk. He's half barmy..." when I walked past the U Boat captain. He responded in the correct manner...
"Your name vill also go on ze list. Vot is it?!"
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [362333/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 21:18, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Further Information
If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:15/06/2025 20:46
20:38 Westbury to Swindon due 21:23 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Further Information
If you arrive at your destination 15 or more minutes late because your GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay
Last Updated:15/06/2025 20:46
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
21:34 Swindon to Westbury due 22:16 will be cancelled.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
I'm unsure as to the travel possibilities on a greyhound (bus, maybe?)
We're straying into politics here methinks. It's a travel board.
We're straying into politics here methinks. It's a travel board.
Personal Interest aside, I have to agree somewhat. Better in "The West but not the West's trains?"
The design of greyhounds to travel quickly from one point to another, and issues of design that put performance ahead of regular day to day maximum availability, together with notes on safety, and preservation of the lucky few all have parallels of course.
Besides, a picture of a dog always attracts readers ...
Lulu ....
Where are you ...

Re: Bus Service 205 In "Transport for London" [362331/30357/46] Posted by stuving at 20:00, 15th June 2025 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That is probably because Eurostar didn't want to respond. They would have seen the consultation
There is a very long list of "stakeholders consulted with" - over 500 of them - which I presume were actively contacted. It does not include the operators of any of the railway services relevant here, nor Network Rail (station owners and managers). (Abellio is named but that will be for buses.) ASLEF and RMT are, however in the list, as is National Grid. It's enough to start people muttering about judicial reviews!
Re: Gone to the dogs? A look at greyhound racing's future - June 2025 In "Introductions and chat" [362330/30358/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:51, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... and we are posting here on a board clearly marked 'Introductions and chat'. Quite coincidental to any of our mainstream railway or indeed other travel matters.
CfN.
Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362329/30362/30] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:44, 15th June 2025 Already liked by GBM, rogerw | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |

Finn is clearly grinning at me, in that picture, because he knows exactly where he was - but I haven't a clue.

It's not Taunton.

Re: Gone to the dogs? A look at greyhound racing's future - June 2025 In "Introductions and chat" [362328/30358/1] Posted by ChrisB at 19:38, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm unsure as to the travel possibilities on a greyhound (bus, maybe?)
We're straying into politics here methinks. It's a travel board.
Re: HS2 - Government proposals, alternative routes and general discussion In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362327/5138/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:35, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
HS2 reports subcontractor over alleged fraud
The company building the HS2 rail line between London and Birmingham has reported one of its subcontractors to the tax authorities over possible fraud.
Whistleblowers made allegations over the way pay was handled for some construction staff on the high-speed line.
HS2 Ltd said last month it was conducting its own investigation, looking into two firms who supplied it with workers. The company has now also referred the matter to HMRC.
The firms in question were providing workers to Balfour Beatty Vinci (BBV), a contractor for HS2.
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander is expected to raise the issue in Parliament this week. It is the latest difficulty to beset the troubled giant rail infrastructure project.
HS2 has faced myriad challenges and spiralling costs since it was first announced in 2009.
It was originally designed to boost capacity on the railways between the north and south of England but the last, Conservative, government decided to scrap the second phase of the project, which included building lines to Manchester and Leeds.
Earlier this year whistleblowers flagged concerns over the way some subcontracted staff were being paid. They said self-employed workers had been falsely declared as salaried staff, with "fake" payslips submitted at a higher payrate. The allegations were first published in the i newspaper in May.
One of the labour suppliers is understood to remain suspended from new contracts while inquiries continue.
An HS2 spokesperson said: "We treat all whistleblower allegations seriously and are continuing to conduct our own investigation."
The firm said it encouraged anyone with relevant information to report it via confidential internal channels.
The Department for Transport said last month it had "a zero-tolerance attitude towards fraud, bribery, and corruption" and would ensure any claims of wrongdoing were thoroughly investigated.
The company building the HS2 rail line between London and Birmingham has reported one of its subcontractors to the tax authorities over possible fraud.
Whistleblowers made allegations over the way pay was handled for some construction staff on the high-speed line.
HS2 Ltd said last month it was conducting its own investigation, looking into two firms who supplied it with workers. The company has now also referred the matter to HMRC.
The firms in question were providing workers to Balfour Beatty Vinci (BBV), a contractor for HS2.
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander is expected to raise the issue in Parliament this week. It is the latest difficulty to beset the troubled giant rail infrastructure project.
HS2 has faced myriad challenges and spiralling costs since it was first announced in 2009.
It was originally designed to boost capacity on the railways between the north and south of England but the last, Conservative, government decided to scrap the second phase of the project, which included building lines to Manchester and Leeds.
Earlier this year whistleblowers flagged concerns over the way some subcontracted staff were being paid. They said self-employed workers had been falsely declared as salaried staff, with "fake" payslips submitted at a higher payrate. The allegations were first published in the i newspaper in May.
One of the labour suppliers is understood to remain suspended from new contracts while inquiries continue.
An HS2 spokesperson said: "We treat all whistleblower allegations seriously and are continuing to conduct our own investigation."
The firm said it encouraged anyone with relevant information to report it via confidential internal channels.
The Department for Transport said last month it had "a zero-tolerance attitude towards fraud, bribery, and corruption" and would ensure any claims of wrongdoing were thoroughly investigated.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [362326/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 19:30, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And for today ... the first train is replace by a bus because, as far as I can tell, the line is needed to run a more important West Country express that calls at Westbury, with engineering works closing the normal line through Pewsey.
I am not sure if that was the case. The up train from Warminster is usually timed to be on the single line between 08:26 and 08:38. Today the Penzance train was slightly early and was on the line between 09:02 and 09:14.
The return service from Swindon is usually between Thingley and Bradford Junctions from 09:27 and 09:38.
I couldn't see any other reason ... and it was planned in well ahead and wasn't an "oops - we've no staff or train" on the morning!
Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362325/30362/30] Posted by bradshaw at 19:13, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It is on or very near chalk.
Somewhere near Mid Hants Railway, there had the Retro Wheels and Rails event this weekend
GWR had years to address this issue when it was in their control before the DfT tightened their grip. Instead of doing so they left it on the "too difficult" pile.
It's never been within GWR's control. That was the whole point of privatisation!
It's been suggested on another forum that Liskeard-Looe is often the first branch to be sacrificed on a Sunday when there is crew shortage as it's the easiest one to bustitute.
Coombe Junction, st keyne wishing well, and Causeland are completely inaccessible to a bus. Especially the ones that GWR have on standby for Cornwall mainline and branches today (a 15m triaxle coach)
Falmouth has the sea shanty festival with huge queues seen today, they had 1 coach on standby which would have been as good as useless, how do you decide which 53 passengers to move, and upset the rest.
Re: Bus Service 205 In "Transport for London" [362323/30357/46] Posted by ChrisB at 19:01, 15th June 2025 Already liked by grahame | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That is probably because Eurostar didn't want to respond. They would have seen the consultation
Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362322/30362/30] Posted by JayMac at 18:52, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
South Downs, Sussex area
We're getting warmer. Finn wasn't in the South Downs National Park, but he was very close.
Re: Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of being Beechinged? In "TransWilts line" [362321/30162/18] Posted by Mark A at 18:39, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Travelling from Kingston to Bath, the tickets from the ticket office at Kingston were Edmondson(?) ones endorsed with words to the effect "Via Paddington and either Chippenham or Devizes". It would have been around 1969, so, some years after the route via Devizes ceased to be available.
That would have been the time the loco, I think a Warship, became terminally smoky after Swindon.
And it was possibly that trip, that on the return journey, passing Swindon, the sight of seemingly hundreds of steam locos, dead and having been there for some years, in the sidings on the up side of the line immediately after Swindon Station.
Mark
Re: Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362320/30362/30] Posted by bradshaw at 18:23, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
South Downs, Sussex area