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Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375146/28355/22]
Posted by eightonedee at 11:30, 15th May 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Mark A
 
Can they be persuaded to continue the service on to Milton Keynes? I understand that there is an unmet need for such a service and a nice newly rebuilt line available...

Re: Kernow Connect - a new Okehampton to Bodmin line
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375145/32014/28]
Posted by paul7575 at 11:27, 15th May 2026
 
Tacking a GBR logo on the ‘map’ won’t give it legitimacy… 

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375144/28355/22]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:53, 15th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby, grahame
 
…so the longer the start is delayed, the better in terms of the problems with that.

I’m hearing the start might not be delayed now!

Indeed, all good for a launch on Monday as originally hoped.  Services now in RealTimeTrains and the journey planners:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:SWI/2026-05-18/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=GW

Re: Bristol Airport Megabus experience left disabled woman 'in tears'
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375143/32032/5]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 08:17, 15th May 2026
 
I can confirm it has been reinforced to staff yesterday via staff notice.

Personally I like someone sitting in those seats to have a yap to. On these coaches the driver is quite isolated away from the passengers, and it gets quite lonely! They also have audio cctv recording in the cab area, so the company will know exactly how the conversation went between driver and passenger.

Re: Bus roof torn off on impact under railway bridge incidents - merged topics
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375142/6748/5]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 08:05, 15th May 2026
 
Looks very much like it was …..

Re: C2C Nationalised - 20th July 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375141/30469/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:00, 15th May 2026
Already liked by JohnM, eightonedee
 
What will stop is tax payers money paying the bubbly and canopies at the share holders meeting 

Canopies? Surely you meant Gazebos.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line" [375140/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 05:52, 15th May 2026
 
05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09

Facilities on the 05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09.
Toilet facilities are not available. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.

I am - relieved - to report that there are not all that many long distance passengers on this train, with the majority go customers using it for short duration journeys.  There are *some* longer distance mind - including regulars off the line north of Trowbridge and carrying on to Southampton.

Re: The Enterprise, Dublin-Belfast new rolling stock order placed, 2026.
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375139/32034/52]
Posted by grahame at 05:45, 15th May 2026
 
a question how far south from Belfast do the over head wires extend and how far North from Dublin do the over head wires extend?

Thank you.

From Dublin, the line is electrified from Connelly as far as Malahide though I don't the spur into the terminal platforms has overheads.  In Belfast there is no electrification.

Re: The Enterprise, Dublin-Belfast new rolling stock order placed, 2026.
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375138/32034/52]
Posted by infoman at 03:26, 15th May 2026
 
a question how far south from Belfast do the over head wires extend and how far North from Dublin do the over head wires extend?

Thank you.

The Enterprise, Dublin-Belfast new rolling stock order placed, 2026.
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [375137/32034/52]
Posted by JayMac at 03:18, 15th May 2026
 
From Translink, but a joint statement with Iarnród Éireann:

Iarnród Éireann and Translink have signed a landmark contract with leading Swiss manufacturer Stadler to design, build and technically support a new Enterprise fleet to operate a transformed Belfast – Dublin rail service.

This major £548m / €698m cross-border investment for new fleet and associated infrastructure, is jointly funded by the Northern Ireland Executive, Department for Infrastructure and the Government of Ireland, Department of Transport, and supported with €165m through PEACEPLUS, a programme managed by the Special EU Programmes Body (SEUPB).

continues...
https://www.translink.co.uk/infrastructure-and-projects/current-projects/new-enterprise-trains-project

Stadler FLiRT is proving to be a very capable modular platform for a variety of passenger rail needs. Particularly when it comes to bi- and tri-mode flavours. It'll be interesting to see a 5'3" gauge variant. Although they already have Russian gauge versions (near 5ft) in the FLiRT family, so not too big of a deal. May just use those bodies on wider bogies.

Re: No ticket barriers for Grade II listed station at York?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375136/5581/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 01:26, 15th May 2026
 
This goes back as far as 2009, here on the Coffee Shop forum:

Dozens of rail passengers and residents have formally objected to plans to install automated ticket barriers at York Station (link below.)
http://www.thepress.co.uk/news/4025600.43_objections_to_York_ticket_barrier_bid/


Re: Clifton Rocks Railway, Bristol - merged topics
In "Railway History and related topics" [375135/6335/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:44, 14th May 2026
 
From YouTube, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjzBgFVNJO4

Re: Bus roof torn off on impact under railway bridge incidents - merged topics
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375134/6748/5]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:43, 14th May 2026
 
That wasn't one of their brand new electric buses?

Re: Reopening former rail line between Hythe and Totton - ongoing discussion, merged topic
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375133/10308/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:26, 14th May 2026
 
EWR services are likely to eventually go south towards Reading/Swindon but would require UP island platforms

Re: TfW proposed services into Bristol
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [375132/32031/21]
Posted by Mark A at 20:59, 14th May 2026
 
I wonder if GWR might have been more agreeable if the Welsh Assembly pushed for and contributed to electrification of Filton Bank into Temple Meads?

I think you are a little optimistic about the prospect for traffic for Bristol beyond Gt Malvern **snip**

Ah, I was thinking Bristol - Hereford - Shrewsbury - Chester via the Maindee curve before Newport.  Not a great distance. Suboptimal road connections. Hopefully the Maindee curve being singled hasn't screwed its capacity too much - before it was singled, didn't some Regional Railways services provide just that?

Mark

Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375131/5604/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:41, 14th May 2026
 
I suspect that Scottish electrification is the money the Barnett formula gave them for HS2 spend

New Bradford-on-Avon bridge will 'solve decades-long problem' in Wiltshire
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [375130/32033/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:32, 14th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

New bridge will 'solve decades-long problem'


Residents have told the BBC they have been "scraped by lorries" and "whacked by wing mirrors" using Town Bridge - Image © Bradford-on-Avon Town Council

A new bridge, costing about £440,000, will make a town centre "safer for pedestrians and cyclists and solve a "decades-long problem", council chiefs say.

Under the plans, a footbridge will be built in the centre of Bradford-on-Avon to offer an alternative route to Town Bridge, where pedestrians have reported being scraped by lorries and hit by wing mirrors.

Wiltshire Council has now secured about £50,000 for the bridge's design and business case.

The town's mayor Jack Vittles said the new route could solve a "decades-long problem", adding if you are using a pushchair or using a wheelchair, the current bridge is "borderline unusable".

Councillor Martin Smith, cabinet member for highways, said: "We know that crossing the river can be particularly challenging at busy times, and concerns have been raised locally about pedestrian safety on the Town Bridge, especially for those walking close to traffic. A new pedestrian and cycling bridge would provide a much safer alternative route, helping people to avoid traffic, encouraging more active travel and improving everyday journeys around the town," he added.

Wiltshire Council said the bridge will connect Bridge Street on the south side to Bridge Yard on the north.

A draft four-year plan has been submitted by the council to Active Travel England (ATE), which includes allocating more than £440,000 for the bridge until 2030. The initial £50,000, which has been approved by ATE, could mean the design is submitted within the next year.

Vittles said the current bridge "puts people off" going into the town centre. "We've consulted on this for a number of years...and there's a real need and a desire for this," he added.


Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375129/5604/51]
Posted by ray951 at 20:07, 14th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
It has just struck me. "They" (Treasury who control everything, including bankrolling the Scottish government's deficit) can allow expenditure to electrify the rail connections from Edinburgh to Galashiels (pop. 10,060) and Tweedbank (pop. 2,101), but not the rail connections from Exeter (pop.138,399) Plymouth (277,695), Gloucester (pop. 132,416), Cheltenham (pop. 118,836), Oxford (pop. 166,034, nearest connection just 10 miles away), Worcester (pop.103,872) to the national network, never mind that small station at Temple Meads.

Tell me again about how all the money stays in the south.....
Wait till you see the price of tickets in the South compared to the North.
Check how many tram/light rail services there are south of Birmingham compared to north of Birmingham.
And while I am on a roll, guess which part of England currently has its main lines being electrified?

And Scotland does get more govt funding per head than England.

Re: Reopening former rail line between Hythe and Totton - ongoing discussion, merged topic
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375128/10308/28]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:00, 14th May 2026
 
Chiltern's Oxford services are currently slated to do  that, with another 2tph eventually shuttling between Hanborough & Cowley.

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375127/28355/22]
Posted by ray951 at 19:58, 14th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
In terms of road crossings, on the GWML there's the terrible twosome at Steventon, and on the line to Oxford there's an 'Authorised user only one with a not-particularly-helpful road arrangement at either side - recorded on a Google Streetview from 2011 with a sort of vehicular dance in progress and which can't fill anyone that sees the image with much reassurance.  c. 2016 it received a pair of gantries at either side but I don't know what those were for. (Streetview link below shows the most recent image...)

Mark

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qna9Cq2HHiaDtV9E8
The gantries are part of the aborted electrification scheme to Oxford, cancelled 10 years and no sign of it ever being finished.

Re: Kernow Connect - a new Okehampton to Bodmin line
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375126/32014/28]
Posted by Noggin at 19:55, 14th May 2026
Already liked by trainbuff, Andy E, Andy, Witham Bobby
 
If you take a look at a map (let alone at the topography), it becomes clear that it would be very complicated indeed to run a railway next to the A30, particularly through places like Launceston where there isn't a clear land corridor.

The more you look, the more it seems like reopening Okehampton to Tavistock (including refurbishment of the Meldon Viaduct) might actually be a reasonably-priced idea in comparison, and electrification from Newbury to Exeter could be positively low-hanging fruit!

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance - ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [375125/31911/12]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:54, 14th May 2026
 
Thanks, bobm.  I was forming a suitable update post myself.

Member 'martyjon' was a frequent, and well-informed, contributor on the Coffee Shop forum.

Re: C2C Nationalised - 20th July 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375124/30469/51]
Posted by eightonedee at 19:46, 14th May 2026
 
What will stop is tax payers money paying the bubbly and canopies at the share holders meeting  Grin

..the cost of which (if it happens) would be a tiny fraction of the cost of the re-branding that will now be rolled out, or the costs to society of the first national rail strike triggered by a dispute in an area remote from the former C2C patch...

Re: Reopening former rail line between Hythe and Totton - ongoing discussion, merged topic
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [375123/10308/28]
Posted by Noggin at 19:44, 14th May 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The Cowley branch is set to reopen as a result of the multi-billion-pound EIT facility being developed at Oxford Science Park. The project is expected to create up to 7,000 jobs, and EIT has also helped fund the reopening.

Interestingly, the push for the scheme came from the Treasury rather than the Department for Transport. The DfT had previously stated that there was no further funding available for rail improvements, so the announcement of the reopening came as a surprise to many industry observers. I suspect there was a conversation between Ellison and the Government regarding transport links to Oxford Science Park, given the scale of the investment being made there and whether those investments would continue.

But I agree that the line to Marchwood line should be an ideal candidate to reopen given the housing growth in that area and the difficult of traveling by car/bus to Southampton.

Doesn't this also help capacity issues at Oxford Station as EWR services (when they finally run) can terminate at Cowley

Re: TfW proposed services into Bristol
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [375122/32031/21]
Posted by Noggin at 19:41, 14th May 2026
 
I wonder if GWR might have been more agreeable if the Welsh Assembly pushed for and contributed to electrification of Filton Bank into Temple Meads?

I think you are a little optimistic about the prospect for traffic for Bristol beyond Gt Malvern, but is there perhaps an argument that Cheltenham Spa to Newport should be run by GWR rather than TfW as it runs Gloucestershire for the majority of it's length?

In fact, if Gloucestershire were to join WECA, might there be a business case for reopening the line through the city and extending Newport services to a new Cheltenham North Parkway station and the racecourse as some kind of "Gloucestershire Metro"?

Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375121/5604/51]
Posted by eightonedee at 19:40, 14th May 2026
Already liked by ray951, Witham Bobby
 
It has just struck me. "They" (Treasury who control everything, including bankrolling the Scottish government's deficit) can allow expenditure to electrify the rail connections from Edinburgh to Galashiels (pop. 10,060) and Tweedbank (pop. 2,101), but not the rail connections from Exeter (pop.138,399) Plymouth (277,695), Gloucester (pop. 132,416), Cheltenham (pop. 118,836), Oxford (pop. 166,034, nearest connection just 10 miles away), Worcester (pop.103,872) to the national network, never mind that small station at Temple Meads.

Tell me again about how all the money stays in the south.....

Re: Night Riviera Sleeper train - between Paddington and Penzance - ongoing discussion
In "London to the West" [375120/31911/12]
Posted by bobm at 19:27, 14th May 2026
 
Sadly we will never know what martyjon meant.  He died two years after that post in 2020.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=24134.msg295672#msg295672

Bristol Airport Megabus experience left disabled woman 'in tears'
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [375119/32032/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:14, 14th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Disabled woman 'forced' to use stairs on Megabus


The megabus service at Bristol Airport has one row of accessible seats behind the driver

A woman with mobility issues said she was told she had to climb up the stairs on a bus because the driver did not want anyone to sit near him.

Jenny Rowe, 77, was getting a Megabus coach from Bristol Airport to Wellington, Somerset, after a cruise holiday. She has mobility issues, including problems with her spine, and has had a hip operation.

The coaches have a single row of seats behind the driver, with all other seats up a flight of stairs. Rowe said the driver told her to sit upstairs or "get off", which was an "awful" experience that ruined her holiday.

The company has apologised and said it would refund her ticket.

Rowe struggles to walk, which led to airport staff taking her by wheelchair from the terminal right to the bus stop. "I paid for my ticket and as I went to get on the bus I said: 'Can I get on to the seats behind the driver?' He said: 'No, I don't have anybody talking to me, I'm not having it. You either go up those stairs or you get off'. I can't do stairs. It's so painful to do stairs. I got to the top, absolutely in tears."

Rowe, from Wellington in Somerset, added: "Everybody on the bus was looking at me, I felt like I was two inches high."

Jet Gates, a disability campaigner said Rowe's story is "heartbreaking".  "We see it so much - disabled people being in situations where they feel humiliated and treated like a piece of luggage," Gates added. She said the situation was "completely unacceptable" and there was a reason the seats exist on the bus. "It puts her in a situation where she's severely vulnerable," Gates said. "It's 2026, we need to stop treating disabled people like this, we are humans. That is the main element to take away from this. There is more empathy to be had."

A spokesperson for Megabus Falcon, which runs the Plymouth-bound service, said: "We are very sorry for the level of service this customer received during her journey. It's clear that the service she received on this occasion did not meet our usual standards. We are addressing the issue privately with the driver involved as well as reinforcing among all employees our high expectations around customer service and, in particular, supporting customers with additional mobility requirements."


Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [375118/28355/22]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 19:00, 14th May 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Witham Bobby
 
It’s the UWC (User Worked Crossings), that are the issue, not road crossings.

Re: RAF Spitfire aircraft - original and replica - various incidents
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [375117/30240/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:31, 14th May 2026
 
From the BBC:

Spitfire crash death was accident, Oxfordshire coroner rules


The Spitfire was attempting to take off from Enstone Airfield near Chipping Norton - Image © AAIB

A former commercial pilot died after losing control of a replica Spitfire during takeoff, an inquest has found.

Peter Hughes, 71, died when the plane crashed and caught fire at Enstone Airfield near Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire on 28 July 2024.

At an inquest earlier this week, a jury inquest at Oxford Coroner's Court ruled Hughes' death had been an accident caused by the ensuing fire. The hearing found that the plane had crashed after losing control soon after it had taken off, with the reason for this not being ascertained.

Hughes had been the only passenger in the model Spitfire, and no one else was injured in the incident.

The replica of the Second World War fighter plane had been built in 2013.

An investigation by the Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) concluded last year that the plane had pivoted to the left during takeoff, before flipping over and crashing. It found no technical defects which would have affected the controllability of the aircraft.

The AAIB report said CCTV and witness reports showed the aircraft "pitched up sharply and then rolled rapidly to the left" towards the edge of the runway. The left wingtip struck the the ground and the plane flipped over and caught fire, fatally injuring Hughes. The report said "no definitive cause" was established for the loss of control.

In a statement released after his crash, Hughes' family said they were "devastated" by his death. "Pete was an extremely good man who was deeply generous in so many ways; his love, his time, energy and spirit, and was an integral part of the numerous communities that he held dear," the family added.

The crash was the second involving a replica Spitfire from the airfield within 10 months. In 2023 Trevor Bailey, 68, from Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, died flying a replica Spitfire near Enstone.


 
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