From the BBC:

 
And it seems to have happened on platform 13. Spooky or what, possums?

 
Couple of queries from a born pedant - I thought the term "Intercity" was a British Railways trademark, in which case what was a 40 year old 125 doing in Helsinki in the first place - and how did a train carriage "barge through" without being either pulled or pushed by a locomotive?

 
The report states that 4 carriages broke free from the consist as it reversed. As it was an empty train I guess the carriages were either being shunted or an ECS movement. Don't know much about Finnish rolling stock but it is surpising that an accidentally divided train doesn't have fail-safe brakes.

 

Only in the UK - and of course while most of the rest of Europe's railways cottoned on to it as a handy term to use for major express services and use it to this day, especially Germany, it died a death here thanks to privatisation. The initial incarnation of post-privatisation Great Western being the last operator to use the Intercity brand on its trains.

 

Exactly. Thankyou for bearing out my point, Willc.

Here in the UK the term "Intercity" still carries a resonance with the majority of the travelling pubic. Certainly the BBC of all people ought to be familiar with the usage. Careless journalism, mindless of the target audience. Tsk.

 

The UK trademark for the word "intercity" in connection with passenger rail transport (Trade Mark 1277000) is currently owned by the Secreatry of State for Transport.   Presumably he inherited from BR.  Trademarks are vunerable to loss if they are not used, one wonders if Intercity is currently being used enough to justify its retention on the trademark register.   

 

Ha, ha. I almost died laughing. But it shows what an utter shambles privatisation was that such an obvious and widely understood brand was just allowed to disappear from use in the country that coined it.

 
From Railway Gazette


Looks like joined up thinking.   I find myself asking
- I wonder if this is as expensive per mile as Ashington or Okehampton
- What a contrast to Ireland where Rosslare to Waterford is in danger of being ripped up
- Do Finnish passenger trains run to the border?

 

The Haparanda Line is quoted above as being 159km, or roughly 99 miles long. The cost of reintroduction of passenger services is quoted as being SKr 50m, or nearly £4.3 million at today's exchange rate, or nearly £43k per mile - see https://www.railjournal.com/regions/europe/new-start-for-passenger-trains-in-the-north/ for more details.

The reopened Ashington line will be around 18 miles long.  The cost of reintroduction of passenger services is quoted as being £166 mliion, or around £9.2 million per mile - see https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/politics/council/government-confirms-ps34million-northumberland-line-rail-minister-says-hes-lucky-be-reopening-train-lines-3110263 for more details.

The soon to be reopened Okehampton line is officially quoted as being 14 miles long by Network Rail.  The cost of reintroduction of passenger services is quoted as being £40.5 mliion, or around £2.9 million per mile - see https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/main-line/first-line-to-reopen-under-british-restoration-fund-announced/ for more details.

Proposals to expand Ireland's public transport network never really recovered from the cancellation of the Transport 21 project in May 2011 - see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_21 for more details.

Finnish passenger trains do run to Kolari, on the border with Sweden - see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolari_railway_station for more details.

Hope that helps

 
Well it rather depends on what needs doing to reopen the line. 

One might ask:

• Is it already open for regular freight?
• What speed was freight allowed to go and what speed is required for passenger use?
• How different are the maintenance standards for freight and passenger lines in Sweden?
• Will there be capacity issues?

Okehampton had not been used much recently and had been somewhat neglected.
I do not know much about the Ashington line

 

All good questions.

I just restricted myself to providing the figures. I assumed grahame had a good reason for asking which I am sure he will reveal in due course 

 

The line had a major upgrade in 2008-12, including a 40 km long short cut of brand new track, electrification, and ETCS/ERTMS. That was for freight usage, described in the supporting EU project as part of TEN-T and being multimodal. No doubt there is some local traffic too, if only trees.

You might think that was done with one eye on passenger services too, but I can't see any sign that was important in justifying the money. Basically there is one thing missing from this part of the world - people.  But I'm sure a couple of passenger trains a day won't be a problem, provided they don't get in the way of the more important trains.

 



So we need to add in another €47,000,000 from that project to the £4.3 mentioned above.  It still suggests it was far from being in the run down state of the Oakhampton line. 

 

"Low-level" type question - looking to help fill (me) in on the relative costs of re-openings in the UK and elsewhere. It does seem / sound like the Swedish case (in cost per km) was relatively cheap compared to the active schemes in the UK at the moment to bring passenger trains back to lines without any regular passenger trains.

I have learned that there is no special / easy-cheap way that the Swedes are doing it - rather a line than was already virtually up to it.  Ah well - it was worth looking.   Looking for a UK comparison - nothing comes straight to my mind as a long line in fine, modern fettle, though there are some short sections around. 

Around my home area, Westbury North to East curve comes to mind, where a service was tried out a few years ago under "experimental" regulations.  Just one train (initially each way?) per day, it was rather quiet when I caught it and (I believe) it was withdrawn to stop it being reclassified as permanent and requiring a formal closure process if it has stayed but then been withdrawn later.   The alternative (now-ish) running reverses at Westbury rather than taking the curve.

Aside - I am not suggesting that the Westbury experiment was a failure as such; the trains in question provided (and now modified, provide) a Bradford-on-Avon and Trowbridge to Paddington direct round trip for London meetings (far too slow to use on a daily basis) as part of what was running anyway - getting a service that started its day and ended it otherwise at Pewsey to / from the depot.  I was considering for today a trip out from Melksham to either Pewsey of Bedwyn and cycling back, but journey times of 100 minutes to Pewsey on all morning services, and up to 180 minutes to Bedwyn put me off.  Doesn't have to be an obviously-silly journey (Whitby to Scarborough, or Blaenau Ffestiniog to Harlech) to take a silly-long time.

 
The culture of cost cutting by government imposed cuts by BR has left a huge legacy on our railways.  Top down cuts were imposed and BR therefore became adept at finding ways to reduce costs. It is clear that the underlying assumption that railways were a thing of the past was not only in the mind set of the politicians but many senior managers at BR as well. 

Reducing a double track line to single not only saved the costs of relaying one line and the future day to day maintenance of that track, but also, by slewing the remaining line into the middle allowed then to delay earthworks maintenance. A low speed goods line could be easily neglected as obviously if it was only goods it would be destined for closure soon, was presumably the thinking.

This is essential work that is not obvious to the general public, but its past neglect is haunting Network Rail (NR) now, not just on minor good lines. It is obvious if you do not repaint a steel bridge it will deteriorate, but embankments and cuttings are seen as maintenance free, when they are far from being so.  The clay soils that predominate in many parts of the UK especially southern England are notorious.  Brunel was delayed in opening the link from Farringdon Road (later Challow station) to Chippenham by 18 month, by the challenge of building embankments with these clays and the Swindon section of the caused major problems in building the Gloucester line.

With some exceptions a goods line in the UK is typically the last leg of a journey with an infrequent service (the intensively used quarry and (previously) coal line were well maintained) poorly were neglected.  I don't know if railway administrations on the continent similarly neglect such routes, but the line in Sweden in the OP, was an international freight route that goes through an area with little population so obviously had a future.  I am not sure of the geology but it may have rock embankments rather than clay which can be easier to maintain.

Comparing costs on a benchmark per km basis is a technique used by economists who know little or nothing of engineering to provide ammunition to politicians who are entranced by the idea that "efficiency savings" can allow them to say they are spend more while doing the opposite so they can also cut taxes.  They fail to realise that it is their own policies past and present that have created many of the inefficiencies that therefore cannot be tackled because they are the problem.  Having a steady pipeline of electrification work would cut the costs per km significantly but if you have a new team each time who have to learn on the job you will never do it efficiently. 

Similarly some requirements imposed by DfT on HS2 to minimise future maintenance have massively increased the cost of construction. I am sure these will be revisited in later stages, but for stage 1 they are now fixed into the project.  Why was no engineer on the project at an early stage empowered to question these requirements or did the design while you construct culture (don't get me on that) that we so like in this country these days blind even them to the implications of that decision. 

Edit: VickiS - Clarifying Acronym

 

I visited this line Interrail in 2024 ... the single daily train to Tornio station in Finland, walk to Haparanda, and train onward.  Will be good to see oil opened through.

From yle in Finland