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Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
As at 6th January 2025 20:19 GMT
 
Sir Andrew Haines, CEO of Network Rail
Posted by ChrisB at 10:15, 31st December 2024
 
From Oxford Mail

The CEO of Network Rail has received a knighthood in the annual New Year Honours list.

Andrew Haines OBE, 60, the chief executive of Network Rail, received a knighthood for his services to the transport sector and the economy.

Sir Andrew lives in Wantage and is in charge of the government’s transition team which will take the rail industry from a privatised model to one which is publicly run.

Before joining Network Rail in 2018 he headed up the Civil Aviation Authority for nine years.

He has also led the Great British Railways Transition Team which aims to improve and simplify train travel for passengers.

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Has Haines finally found his "Burning Platform for Change" ?
Posted by Lee at 10:52, 30th April 2021
 
Andrew Haines shows his mettle in this article.

With his backing for rail reopenings, a “welcoming” and “reliable” railway that minimises disruption and encourages travel, developing leisure traffic, and facilitating an "end to end service", he acheives that most rare of things, a conference speech by a Network Rail executive that I find difficult to disagree with.

Has Haines finally found his "Burning Platform for Change" ?

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by Lee at 19:46, 11th September 2018
 
NR will change, it will be a different beast by the end of CP6

Indeed - Depending on who wins the next General Election, it will either have been reclassified as the entirely private Network Railtrack, or absorbed into Corbyn's new BR.

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by Electric train at 19:16, 11th September 2018
 
....mmm.  I'll reserve judgement for the moment.  Having worked for NR for 7 years in the past, I really think he needs to get a grip on the current culture in the organisation (one that neglects its basic remit to maintain the railway and instead likes to focus on the 'shiny new things')

Is this some of the stuff you mean / a good start? ... from Rail Technology Magazine

The new chief executive of Network Rail Andrew Haines has told MPs he will put “passenger’s interests front and centre” following “seven sustained years of decline in performance.”

[snip]
“So, my commitment is to make sure passengers’ interests are front and centre of Network Rails’ agenda for every single one of our employees.”

Having dealt with him in a past life in a TOC/RT relationship I trust him to mean what he says.  Trouble is that the culture in NR has been entirely 'self centred' for the past 10 years or more, so its going to take a lot of sustained effort to achieve the goal he has set.  Don't forget that famous quote about NR: "An organisation entirely staffed by BULLSH*TTERS and ACCOUNTANTS".  (Personally, I exclude from that analysis those who work at the coalface, such as ET of this forum).


Thank you ………………. errrrr I think 

NR does have the capacity, the ability and indeed the desire to change.  The evolution of NR was at first to hide itself from the headlines because of RT and to quietly get on investing and improving the infrastructure, progressively it has built the confidence not only in its self but also with many of the TOCs on a day to day coalface level and even at RMD and TOC MD level; NR just suffers from the press and politicians, NR own banana skins its able to manage but the press and politicians keep throwing their in to.

NR will change, it will be a different beast by the end of CP6

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by ellendune at 18:21, 11th September 2018
 
Don't forget that famous quote about NR: "An organisation entirely staffed by BULLSH*TTERS and ACCOUNTANTS".  (Personally, I exclude from that analysis those who work at the coalface, such as ET of this forum).

It is not that they are only staffed by such people, but that this is the only message their masters at ORR, DfT and, above all the Treasury, want to hear, so that is the only message NR can give. "Just agree you can meet these impossible 'efficiency savings' that we dreamt up without any knowledge of how to run a railway then you can get on with the job" is what they are being asked what do they say? If they say no then no doubt the Treasury will start to talk about closures again - but none that are on lines they commute to work so London and the South East would be fine.  It is those 'little used' lines in 'the Provinces' they would be talking about.     

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by SandTEngineer at 16:29, 11th September 2018
 
....mmm.  I'll reserve judgement for the moment.  Having worked for NR for 7 years in the past, I really think he needs to get a grip on the current culture in the organisation (one that neglects its basic remit to maintain the railway and instead likes to focus on the 'shiny new things')

Is this some of the stuff you mean / a good start? ... from Rail Technology Magazine

The new chief executive of Network Rail Andrew Haines has told MPs he will put “passenger’s interests front and centre” following “seven sustained years of decline in performance.”

[snip]
“So, my commitment is to make sure passengers’ interests are front and centre of Network Rails’ agenda for every single one of our employees.”

Having dealt with him in a past life in a TOC/RT relationship I trust him to mean what he says.  Trouble is that the culture in NR has been entirely 'self centred' for the past 10 years or more, so its going to take a lot of sustained effort to achieve the goal he has set.  Don't forget that famous quote about NR: "An organisation entirely staffed by BULLSH*TTERS and ACCOUNTANTS".  (Personally, I exclude from that analysis those who work at the coalface, such as ET of this forum).

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by grahame at 15:57, 11th September 2018
 
....mmm.  I'll reserve judgement for the moment.  Having worked for NR for 7 years in the past, I really think he needs to get a grip on the current culture in the organisation (one that neglects its basic remit to maintain the railway and instead likes to focus on the 'shiny new things')

Is this some of the stuff you mean / a good start? ... from Rail Technology Magazine

The new chief executive of Network Rail Andrew Haines has told MPs he will put “passenger’s interests front and centre” following “seven sustained years of decline in performance.”

[snip]
“So, my commitment is to make sure passengers’ interests are front and centre of Network Rails’ agenda for every single one of our employees.”

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by SandTEngineer at 13:14, 22nd May 2018
 
....mmm.  I'll reserve judgement for the moment.  Having worked for NR for 7 years in the past, I really think he needs to get a grip on the current culture in the organisation (one that neglects its basic remit to maintain the railway and instead likes to focus on the 'shiny new things')

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 10:27, 22nd May 2018
 
This really is the best piece of news that we've had in quite a while .

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by Lee at 09:30, 22nd May 2018
 
What a truly fantastic appointment, although given that it's Network Rail we are talking about, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me this is a wind-up.

Haines is someone who understands the needs of both the big and the small on the rail network, and if anyone can change NR's ridiculous fingers-in-the-ears "la la la, we cant hear you" attitude towards the likes of Pilning, then he can.

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by chuffed at 07:19, 22nd May 2018
 
Given the revolving door nature of these appointments, I cannot help wondering if there is a vacancy for a certain person at the Catastrophic Administrators Authority. And i don't mean you, grahame!

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by grahame at 06:46, 22nd May 2018
 
Really pleased to see Andrew Haines return to the railways.

Got a tough job on his hands but if anyone can he’s the one. After all he sorted out the mess at FGW all those years ago.

Good to see a very strong hand of "likes" on that post including well informed members who were around back in the days when Andrew Haines was in charge at First Great Western. 

More - this time from The Guardian

Network Rail has announced that Andrew Haines will be its new chief executive – and be paid 27% less than his predecessor to run Britain’s rail infrastructure.

Haines, the chief executive of the Civil Aviation Authority, will be paid £588,000 including benefits, with a possible 9% bonus, when he takes over in the autumn following a short handover period with retiring boss Mark Carne.

Haines arrives with a reputation for cost-cutting and transformation during his eight-year stint at the CAA, which earned him warm praise from the transport secretary, Chris Grayling. He said Haines had “done an outstanding job at the CAA”.

But he angered many within the organisation, who warned that its safety functions were being impaired as senior staff were made redundant and average salaries were slashed. A leaked internal report obtained by the Guardian last year showed inspectors under Haines believed they no longer had sufficient resources to do the job properly.

The CAA boss started his career in rail, as a left luggage clerk at London Victoria station, and later had stints as managing director at South West Trains then First Group’s rail division. He is sits on the board of rolling stock leasing company Eversholt Rail UK, a post he will resign on joining Network Rail.

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Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by johnneyw at 22:29, 21st May 2018
 
I do hope this will work well, there is a lot to sort out, mainly getting costs down from prohibitive to merely extortionate.

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by Timmer at 21:29, 21st May 2018
 
Really pleased to see Andrew Haines return to the railways.

Got a tough job on his hands but if anyone can he’s the one. After all he sorted out the mess at FGW all those years ago.

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by rogerw at 21:12, 21st May 2018
 
A very good appointment

Re: Andrew Haines to be new CEO of Network Rail - announced May 2018.
Posted by grahame at 20:18, 21st May 2018
 
As has been reported, Mark Carne is to leave his role as Chief Executive of Network Rail in the autumn.

His replacement has been announced by Network Rail today. A name well known in these parts ... [snip]  Andrew Haines.


I look forward to welcoming Andrew back to the rail industry.   Although we (at TransWilts) were involved with FGW at the bottom of our service level and only made very limited progress during his tenure, I remember Andrew as a practical and positive builder forward - a good memory at a time when you might have expected me to have been very jaded about the FGW (as it was) director team.

Sir Andrew Haines, CEO of Network Rail
Posted by JayMac at 19:59, 21st May 2018
 
As has been reported, Mark Carne is to leave his role as Chief Executive of Network Rail in the autumn.

His replacement has been announced by Network Rail today. A name well known in these parts...

... don't worry, it's not Mark Hopwood, but his much more capable predecessor, Andrew Haines.

Mr Haines returns to railways after a stint as head of the Civil Aviation Authority.

Full details:

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/new-network-rail-chief-executive-announced/

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:10, 15th October 2010
 
To update this topic (because I have a lot of time for Andrew Haines, and think he should be given a fair press) - from the BBC:

Engine makers 'may have ended ash flight ban sooner'

Some engine manufacturers blocked an early lifting of the volcanic ash flying ban, the BBC has learned.

An e-mail given to the BBC as a result of a Freedom of Information Request shows that some manufacturers saw "nothing to gain" from lifting the ban.

The BBC has also been told that Air France KLM will now fully compensate stranded travellers. The airline had previously refused to do so, but will now comply with its obligations under EU law.

It was six months ago that volcanic ash sent the UK back in time. The eruption of the Icelandic volcano, Eyjafjallajoekull, caused UK airspace to be shut down for six days.

The regulator, the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) estimates about 33,000 flights were cancelled. The advice for airlines and aviation authorities at the time for ash was to "avoid, avoid, avoid". There were no rules set as to what level of ash was safe to fly through.

This policy worked in other parts of the world where planes could simply fly around the affected airspace, but caused severe problems for the UK, where airspace is much more congested.

Crucial to lifting the flying ban was getting agreement with engine manufacturers as to what their engines could safely tolerate. Ash can melt inside jet engines, clog the turbine blades and cause the engine to stall.

And an e-mail given to the BBC as a result of a Freedom of Information Request says: "Engine manufacturers met last night in the USA and declined to accept that their products could operate... We believe that a number of manufacturers... were supportive of the position but others saw 'nothing to gain'."

The e-mail goes on to say that if engine manufacturers had accepted the deal, all airspace could be opened.

"It did take time to get them [engine manufacturers] to understand why the particular circumstances facing Europe were unprecedented and why we needed movement from them," said the chief executive of the CAA, Andrew Haines.

However, six months on, airlines still believe the regulator could have done better. They argue the CAA should have given them more freedom to decide whether it was safe to fly, using their own experiences and judgement.

"It just became increasingly frustrating as the days went on," said Steve Ridgway, the chief executive of Virgin Atlantic. His airline lost ^30m in the crisis and saw 43,000 customers stranded. "We started to just not believe the data that was coming out of the Met Office. Airlines were putting up aircraft on test flights... they weren't finding any ash. And it was that speed of response which became so frustrating."

The CAA though argues it had to put safety first and could not lift the ban until it had agreement with engine manufacturers.

"What no airline was able to do was present us with data from their engine manufacturers - who are the experts here - which said it's safe to fly in these conditions," said Andrew Haines. "If someone had been able to do that then we wouldn't have had this issue. But not a single airline was able to do that right the way across Europe."

There is some good news for travellers though.

One airline - the giant Air France / KLM - had been refusing to comply with its obligations under EU law to reimburse passengers for reasonable costs incurred whilst stranded.

But the CAA has told the BBC that it has just secured agreement from the airline to pay out in full.


My highlighting. CfN. 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by matt473 at 01:15, 14th May 2010
 
Maybe he should use this as an excuse to return to the railway and do what he does best, create a team that leads to a service that benefits passengers therfore the franchisee

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 22:29, 13th May 2010
 
Utterly outrageous. Imagine the hysteria if a plane fell from the skys. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Wouldn't it be unfortunate for the airlines if "Katla" was to erupt!!!!!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:52, 13th May 2010
 
From the Guardian:

Airline watchdog says industry must take share of blame for ash crisis

CAA chief executive Andrew Haines says commercial pressures and over-cautious international rules led to shutdown of UK airspace

If it is any consolation to Andrew Haines at least he is used to being blamed for everything. The chief executive of the Civil Aviation Authority was shoved back in the spotlight recently as "The Man Who Shut the Skies" or, more prosaically, as the head of Britain's air watchdog who presided over the closure of UK airspace for six days last month on safety grounds following the eruption of the Eyjafjallaj^kull volcano in Iceland.

Haines has been here before: he was the boss of First Great Western, the London-to-Wales rail franchise, when it was re-christened Worst Great Western throughout 2007 and 2008. Back then he could at least rely on the tacit support of the government, which declined to strip the contract from FGW's owner, FirstGroup, despite a passenger revolt caused by overcrowding and repeated service cancellations.

This time around, no one appeared to lend moral support as hundreds of thousands of stranded passengers waited for the CAA to rewrite years-old safety guidelines in an unprecedented 96-hour rush of tests and consultations.

Willie Walsh, the British Airways chief executive, said the prolonged ban was "scandalous", while Lord Adonis, then transport secretary, said safety regulators had been "too cautious". Under the new guidelines for flying through ash clouds, large areas of Europe that were no-go zones for nearly a week suddenly became safe for commercial aircraft. Having lost an estimated ^2.1bn, the aviation industry is screaming accusations of incompetence and demanding compensation.

Haines, who joined the CAA last year, admits the FGW experience helped when he picked up the Evening Standard the day after the ban was lifted ^ 21 April ^ and read the claim that he had personally shut down Britain's airports for nearly a week. "I think second time around is never quite as bad," he says. "But when you have had two or three hours' sleep per night for six days and it's your birthday, and you have bust a gut to do the right thing ... "

Former colleagues of the 46-year-old Welshman testify to his calmness under pressure and pragmatism. He immediately disowned a pledge from his FGW predecessor to turn the franchise from the worst into the best-performing rail service in Britain because "business transformation does not happen overnight". Two years on, FGW now beats the national average for train punctuality.
A former FirstGroup colleague describes Haines as a "relaxed and informal" executive who threw himself into rescuing FGW. "He worked incredibly long days to turn it around. He is level-headed and calm, so he always makes decisions based on evidence. We never saw him lose it," said the ex-colleague.

Haines's response to the latest furore is one of mild incredulity. Sitting in his office at the CAA's central London headquarters, he says that the industry he regulates should take more responsibility for what happened. "To blame the regulator is a fantastic piece of buck-passing." And as for Walsh, a fellow straight-talker: "He said it was his personal belief [that airspace should not have been shut]. You cannot establish safety rules on people's personal beliefs." However, Adonis's comments were more supportive than they first appeared, adds Haines. "He was saying that international regulations were over-cautious and I agree."

At this point Haines produces the piece of yellow paper that stranded thousands of Britons in Mumbai and other airports around the globe. It is the safety guideline for flying through volcanic ash, as set down by the International Civil Aviation Organisation, a branch of the United Nations that sets global aviation standards. The smoke plume from the volcano contained a mixture of glass and rock that, if sucked into engines, had the potential to melt inside their turbines, stall passenger jets and plunge them into the ground. So when an ash cloud drifts across northern Europe, what should airlines do? The CAA and its European co-regulators turned to the ICAO guidelines, which stated, in capital letters just to emphasise things: "AVOID AVOID AVOID." Those three words are the reason why Europe was shut for six days ^ if there is the slightest presence of ash in the skies, airspace must be shut.

"That guidance had been in place for a number of years and we had to rapidly come up with a safe level of ash contamination," he says. The new guidelines, which permit flying in all but the most contaminated air corridors, were drawn up after aircraft manufacturers and engine maker Rolls-Royce were persuaded to conduct a series of tests, because it was their original guidance that created the blanket "AVOID" rule.

Haines says: "In truth there were commercial issues wrapped up with safety issues. We know that at extreme levels, ash contamination has been a serious safety issue. We know that the levels of contamination we faced were a long way from those levels of contamination. I can only speculate why airlines and manufacturers were unable to find the right levels." Some observers believe there was concern over liabilities for engine and aircraft damage, a theory underlined by industry papers that showed airlines were reluctant to contribute to discussions about setting new guidelines for flying through ash clouds as recently as two years ago.
Despite Haines's clear inference that the airspace closures were largely a crisis of the aviation industry's own making, he singles out one industry player for praise. "Rolls-Royce were fantastic. When they saw the issue they came to the fore. Without them we would not have got much of a resolution."

There is some sympathy for airlines that face multimillion-pound accommodation and food costs under the EU261 guideline that orders carriers to look after customers whose flights are delayed or cancelled. (As well as presiding over safety, and setting landing fees at London's main airports, the CAA oversees the implementation of the guideline.) The EU framework did not anticipate a geological phenomenon and has saddled the industry with a hefty bill. Even Ryanair, always keen to duck a cost when it can, has grudgingly acknowledged that it will have to pay up.

The EU is reviewing the rule and Haines is sympathetic to industry concerns because it forces an airline, which might have been paid ^50 for a return fare, to pay hundreds of pounds in hotel costs. "It is so clearly out of kilter when you compare the cost to the operator with the benefit to the consumer. That makes it very difficult to enforce."

Haines adds that unifying European air traffic control is "not a panacea" because the new ash guidelines were drawn up by the CAA, not a pan-European regulator. Indeed, if anything rankles with Haines it is that the CAA has not been given enough credit for pushing through a new safety regime in a number of days. He welcomes calls for an inquiry, but with the view to bolstering the new safety set-up because the ash crisis is far from over. Within days of the interview the volcano spits a huge cloud into the middle of the Atlantic again causing hundreds of cancellations.

Asked how he coped with the responsibility of getting thousands of Britons back to their homes, he says: "It genuinely didn't feel like stress. It felt like there was a problem here and there was no easy solution to it, but I had the conviction that we were trying to do the right thing. I didn't break down in tears or tear my hair out, or throw anything at people." Perhaps the stress of FGW was worth it after all, but buck-passers beware..

The CV

Age 46
Education Cyfarthfa high school, Merthyr Tydfil; King's College London; Kingston University.

Career

1985 British Rail graduate manager. 1994 Joined Railtrack as an account manager in London and the south-east. 1997 Joined South West Trains as general manager, becoming operations director in 1999 and then managing director in 2000.

July 2005 Joined FirstGroup as managing director, UK rail division.

2009 Joined Civil Aviation Authority as chief executive.

Interests Architecture, film, literature and gardening.

Family Married to Caroline with two children, Alexandra and William.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:44, 3rd May 2010
 
From the BBC:

Volcano ash flight ban 'might have ended sooner'

The suspension of UK flights after the volcanic eruption in Iceland might have ended sooner, the BBC has been told.
Flights resumed when manufacturers gave assurances six days after the eruption, which disrupted the plans of hundreds of thousands of people last month.
If airline engine manufacturers had specified a safe level of ash earlier, the Civil Aviation Authority says it could have reopened the skies earlier.
All aircraft engine makers contacted by the BBC declined to comment.
Ash from Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull volcano triggered a shutdown of European airspace, paralysing many airports and stranding hundreds of thousands of tourists and business travellers.
The flight ban was imposed because ash can turn to molten glass in the high temperatures of an aircraft's turbine and cripple the engine.
CAA chief executive Andrew Haines told Radio 4's The Report: "The critical path for this decision was the time it took for the manufacturers to satisfy themselves on the safe level of contamination. How long does it take for a manufacturer who has declined to determine something for many years to actually say, 'Given the evidence we've now got, we're happy to nail our colours to the mast and say that these are safe levels of contamination that don't present a hazard.'"
He said: "I suspect that manufacturers knew much of this, that they knew there was an acceptable level of safety but what hadn't happened is that they were prepared to underwrite that and validate it."
Mr Haines continued: "I suspect that a lot of these things come down to a combination of commercial and safety pressures and actually there are levels of contamination which might impact on the life of the engine without impacting on its safety. But that's only a speculation on my part.... I'm just grateful that they came to the table and worked very hard to get it resolved. If we'd had the assurances from manufacturers that we have now at the start of this crisis, the response would have been different."
Ongoing discussions about the safe level of volcanic ash to fly in had already been taking place between air regulators and the air industry, according to Richard Deakin, chief executive of the National Air Traffic Control Services (NATS). "There had been a meeting of the volcanic ash advisory group with aero engine manufacturers in March of this year, so literally a few weeks before events unfolded," he said.
The question of what might be a safe level has been widely discussed across the industry for many years.
In 1982 a BA jumbo jet flew right into a plume of ash from an Indonesian volcano and all four engines stalled, although they were eventually restarted.
The normal procedure when planes encounter ash is to fly round it, meaning that manufacturers have not had to specify "safe" levels. But the size and location of the ash cloud produced by Eyjafjallajokull, meant it was impossible to fly round it.
The government has also been criticised for its lack of leadership in the crisis.
Tim Jeans, managing director of Monarch Airlines, told The Report: "The government was not in control and I hope it will never pretend otherwise. There was no leadership demonstrated, nor has there been other than they understood there was a potential political problem brewing."
A Department for Transport spokesperson responded: "The government assumed clear and decisive control over events from the early stages of the ash crisis - it is wrong to suggest otherwise. The decision to restrict airspace was made in line with long-standing international guidelines and information from aircraft manufacturers that any volcanic ash could pose a danger to aircraft. The whole of Europe was in the same position, acting according to the same aviation safety rules."
The Report will be broadcast on BBC Radio 4, on Monday 3 May at 2030 BST. You can listen again via the BBC iPlayer or download the podcast.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:22, 23rd April 2010
 
From the BBC:

RAF Typhoon jets back in skies after ash concerns

Typhoon jet flights from an RAF base in Lincolnshire have resumed after training flights were suspended.
The fleet was grounded after volcanic ash deposits were found in the engines of four aircraft.
The Ministry of Defence said that all 11 planes were checked and no problems were reported.
The first Typhoon to take to the air, from the home base at RAF Coningsby since the grounding was the display aircraft, at 0800 BST on Friday.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by JayMac at 18:57, 23rd April 2010
 
Falling ice damages roof of Bristol house

....."If the person it happens to has an accurate time of when it happened we will check the air traffic control radar to see what aircraft were in the area, otherwise it's a wild goose chase," the spokesman said......

I guess wild geese don't show up on radar then? 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by moonrakerz at 18:53, 23rd April 2010
 
Most civil engines are totally different to military types. Civil engines tend to be high-bypass ratio engines, this means that much of the air (and ash) doesn't actually go through the really hot bit of the engine.
So comparing military high performance jets with civil airliners is really a bit of a joke !!

Erm, isn't that the point? The way I read the article, the CAA is saying that you should not compare military and civil jets in this context, and that the ash deposits in military aircraft are therefore not indicative of a risk to civil airliners...

Yes - but that was not the way it was reported on TV, I should have made that point clearer.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:50, 23rd April 2010
 
So blame ice

Ice is being blamed for quite a few things ... from the BBC:

Falling ice damages roof of Bristol house

A lump of ice has left a football-sized hole in the roof of a Bristol house after it fell from the sky.
The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said it was likely the ice came from water leaking from an aircraft.
It is not the first time ice falling from the sky has damaged property in Bristol.
The roof and guttering of a house four miles away in Downend were damaged in July last year. And the same month a lump of falling ice fell just feet from a man sitting in Stoke Park, near the M32. Similar incidents have happened in Stoke Bishop and Staple Hill.
A spokesman for the CAA said: "We get 20 to 30 of these incidents reported to us a year in the whole of the UK. It's quite rare when you consider there are 3 million movements in UK airspace a year."
He said water leaking from an aircraft turns to ice at high altitudes which falls off as the plane descends into warmer air.
"If the person it happens to has an accurate time of when it happened we will check the air traffic control radar to see what aircraft were in the area, otherwise it's a wild goose chase," the spokesman said.
"There will probably be a handful of aircraft in an area at any time, but we can write to the operators asking them to check their aircraft."
Even if the aircraft is found, any damage caused by the ice will need to be paid for by the home owner's household insurance.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by inspector_blakey at 18:20, 23rd April 2010
 
Most civil engines are totally different to military types. Civil engines tend to be high-bypass ratio engines, this means that much of the air (and ash) doesn't actually go through the really hot bit of the engine.
So comparing military high performance jets with civil airliners is really a bit of a joke !!

Erm, isn't that the point? The way I read the article, the CAA is saying that you should not compare military and civil jets in this context, and that the ash deposits in military aircraft are therefore not indicative of a risk to civil airliners...

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 16:37, 23rd April 2010
 
I'm just waiting for "Katla" to go. On the 3 occasions that "E..." has erupted, this one has gone up. Oh - and its much, much bigger 

Interestingly, the eruption explosivity was fairly low (the Volcano first erupted on 20th March), however when the eruption changed phases on the 14th April it was the combination of glacial ice and magma that caused the 10km high ash cloud. So blame ice

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by moonrakerz at 15:11, 23rd April 2010
 
From the BBC:

RAF Typhoon training halted as ash found in engines

Training flights on RAF Typhoons in Lincolnshire have been suspended after ash deposits were found in the engines of four aircraft.

According to the BBC's Richard Scott, the Civil Aviation Authority has pointed out that military planes fly much faster and suck in far more air than their civilian counterparts.


Ummm !

The CIVIL Aviation Authority now appears to be an "expert" on military aero engines OR is it Richard Scott ? Who ?
We all know the definition of an "expert".

Most civil engines are totally different to military types. Civil engines tend to be high-bypass ratio engines, this means that much of the air (and ash) doesn't actually go through the really hot bit of the engine.
So comparing military high performance jets with civil airliners is really a bit of a joke !!

The bypass ratio of the engines in a Typhoon is 0.4:1. Concorde's were 0.1:1.
Civil high-bypass engines have ratios starting at about 6:1.
The latest RR Trent engine in the Boeing "Dreamliner" has a bypass ratio of 11:1, or to put it another way, over 90% of the air that goes in the front of the engine doesn't go through the "hot" bit where the ash causes problems.

An extra benefit of high-bypass engines is that they are much quieter too.  Main reason being that the exhaust from one of these engines is travelling a lot slower - which is why they aren't used in military aircraft, they can't be used to make an aircraft go very fast.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Tim at 09:11, 23rd April 2010
 
As someone caught at the sharp end of this, I would have much rather endured what we did for 5 days than be put at risk (probably without even being told about the risk) if the aviation industry had kept on flying.



I quite agree.  A balance has to be struck somewhere and the balance that was struck wasn't a million miles from where it should have been IMHO

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by John R at 21:02, 22nd April 2010
 
As someone caught at the sharp end of this, I would have much rather endured what we did for 5 days than be put at risk (probably without even being told about the risk) if the aviation industry had kept on flying.


Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:55, 22nd April 2010
 
From the BBC:

RAF Typhoon training halted as ash found in engines

Training flights on RAF Typhoons in Lincolnshire have been suspended after ash deposits were found in the engines of four aircraft.
The fleet is being checked at its base in Coningsby, Lincolnshire.
An RAF spokesman said the Typhoons were "very high performance jets" so staff were "just being extra cautious".
According to the BBC's Richard Scott, the Civil Aviation Authority has pointed out that military planes fly much faster and suck in far more air than their civilian counterparts.
It says the work done with manufacturers to clear the UK for flying again did not factor in military jets, which are "a whole different world".
The CAA also says conclusions should not be drawn from the RAF's statement about the air-worthiness of civilian aircraft.
It adds that the all-clear for civilian aircraft to return to the skies still stands and there have been no reports of any ash damage.
Almost all flights across Europe are expected to go ahead on Thursday.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Henry at 14:00, 22nd April 2010
 

 Andrew Haines was in a no win situation, in my opinion.

 Dealing with the likes of Michael O'Leary and Willie Walsh, not that they would ever put profit before safety.
 However if an incident had occured, no doubt Mr. Haines would have had been the 'scapegoat'

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Tim at 09:18, 22nd April 2010
 
As far as I am concerned Andrew Haines is a genuinely nice person, he did good things for First..
and good things for the CAA too.  It was him afterall who reopened the airspace!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 22:15, 21st April 2010
 
I don't get why they felt the need to mention how much he gets paid though? Or sorry how much it is estimated he gets paid..

Nice of them to mention it's his birthday today..what a way to spend your birthday,

As far as I am concerned Andrew Haines is a genuinely nice person, he did good things for First..

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:07, 21st April 2010
 
Agreed: I've met him - and I reckon Andrew Haines was the best thing for First Great Western in the past three years. 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Adrian the Rock at 21:55, 21st April 2010
 
...It's a shame the Evening Standard looks intent on making him look bad by saying he was in charge of FGW when it got the name Worst Great Western, despite the fact it was known as that before he came in...
... and they couldn't even get the slur right - it was actually know as Worst Late Western!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by JayMac at 21:38, 21st April 2010
 
Surely Eyjafjallajoekull* is to blame?!

*No, I can't pronounce it either!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 20:55, 21st April 2010
 
The media always try to find a scapegoat for everything.

Inevitably, Gordon Brown has also been blamed for it. I'm suprised the Murdoch media didn't attempt to pin the eruption on him and all!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 at 20:16, 21st April 2010
 
6 days of clear skys , the uks carbon footprint will have been good last week lol!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 19:30, 21st April 2010
 
Saw him on BBC Breakfast this morning, it seems the media are keen to jump down the neck of anybody in authority. Clearly they've never heard of hindsight - not that i'd personally choose to fly regardless of the level of ash in the atmosphere.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 18:29, 21st April 2010
 
Andrew Haines was the man who turned FGW around!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 18:23, 21st April 2010
 
Is it worth mentioning that Andrew Haines was not MD to FGW? Andrew Haines was MD for First UK Rail and Chief Executive Officer of FGW.

It's a shame the Evening Standard looks intent on making him look bad by saying he was in charge of FGW when it got the name Worst Great Western, despite the fact it was known as that before he came in, and it was thanks to him and the team he brought it that it got turned around.

I don't see how he can be solely responsible, it wasn't just UK airspace that got closed. And as far as I could tell over the last few days it wasn't solely his choice.

At work was continuously updating the Heathrow Airport website to see it's updates, and it always mentioned NATS keeping airspace closed.

So leads me to be somewhat confused, and no doubt will cause confusion to others.

Whether closing airspace was the right decision or not, better safe than sorry, if something happened because airspace wasn't closed then again people would be looking for someone to blame anyway.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by super tm at 17:35, 21st April 2010
 
former MD Andrew Haines is on the front page of the Evening Standard tonight.    Apparantly he is the man who took the decision to shut down the air space last week.  Cost so far ^1 billion and counting.  Puts a few FGW delays costs in the shade 

see link http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ 

Has a picture of him at Paddington in his FGW days

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Mookiemoo at 00:03, 25th June 2009
 
ok

My initial reaction is........

I have to fly  lot - shit

then I remembered he did good at FGW so I wish him well

(still nervous though FGW <> CAA)


Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Super Guard at 23:19, 24th June 2009
 
Glad to hear the good news and I and many others i'm sure wish him well in his new role.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 22:19, 24th June 2009
 
I saw Andrew today, he is doing well, wouldn't give me any clues as to the new job, and said to wait the announcement. I am impressed, glad he's doing so well.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Timmer at 22:09, 24th June 2009
 
Though it kind of tells us what we all thought about the reasons for his departure having less to do with his health and more to do with whether his face still fitted.
Doesn't it just. You don't just walk into a top job like that unless you are the person they are looking for.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Phil at 19:52, 24th June 2009
 
Good to hear he's completely off the rails.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by John R at 19:43, 24th June 2009
 
Congratulations to him.

Though it kind of tells us what we all thought about the reasons for his departure having less to do with his health and more to do with whether his face still fitted.

 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Timmer at 18:35, 24th June 2009
 
Thats great news to hear Andrew has a new job. Wow Chief Exec of the CAA.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 18:23, 24th June 2009
 
The former First rail supremo has a new job...
http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=403920&SubjectId=36

He will officially take up his new position in August.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by 12hoursunday at 09:44, 11th December 2008
 
Ollie doesn't like this kind of speculation about somebodies well being, I just don't think it's appropriate to put rumours on a public forum like this,

But you've got to accept it Ollie. Smithy's life evolves around railway rumor!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by tramway at 01:40, 4th December 2008
 
The RailwayEye Blog take on the announcement.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by tramway at 00:42, 4th December 2008
 
Another heartfelt thank you Andrew for what you (and all your staff) have achieved. (Ollie et al also need our thanks.)

For you all.



Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by vacman at 23:55, 3rd December 2008
 
Hopefully your reading this Andrew, thankyou for putting the "Great" back into First Great Western, 12 months ago I was embarresed to put on my FGW uniform, now I feel like it's something to be proud of! Mark Hopwood has a tough act to follow!

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:01, 3rd December 2008
 
Mark Hopwood, previously Performance Director with FGW.  See http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=1178#Mark

I've met him, and I think he'll be a 'safe pair of hands' in continuing with the task of transforming FGW, which has been started so well by Andrew Haines.

My best wishes for the future to both of them.

Chris. 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by ReWind at 21:37, 3rd December 2008
 
Any news on a successor?

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by gwr2006 at 20:49, 3rd December 2008
 
As we know Andrew has been off ill for some time so he is rightly putting his health and family first. His reign in charge at FGW has been hugely successful and he and the team he created have turned things around. He will be missed by everyone who met him during his 15 months with the company.  All the best for the future Andrew.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by smithy at 18:17, 3rd December 2008
 
i have also heard he is leaving apparently he was not unwell,him and moir lockhead had a disagreement that resulted in andrew deciding to leave.

i wish andrew well in whatever he does next,afterall he has done a good job in turning things at FGW around lets hope mark hopwood contiues where andrew left off.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Timmer at 17:49, 3rd December 2008
 
Very sad to read that Andrew Haines is leaving First Group.

Thank you for all that you have done in turning FGW around this past year. You leave it in one heck of a better state then when you arrived. All the best for the future.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Super Guard at 15:27, 3rd December 2008
 
Very sad to hear this news, I would like to thank him for the improvements we have seen and wish him well for the future in whatever path he decides to take.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 15:06, 3rd December 2008
 
Ended up having 3 postings about this:

http://iworkforfgw.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153
http://iworkforfgw.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=154
http://iworkforfgw.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=155

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:58, 3rd December 2008
 
From the BBC:
Mr Haines said his departure was a personal decision.

"We have made real progress in service delivery at First Great Western and I am confident that the team in place there will continue to make further improvements," he said.

"Having effectively performed two parallel, demanding roles now for some time, I have decided to take some time away from work to consider the best direction for my future career.

"This is entirely my own decision and I am grateful for the support and encouragement of the First Group board during my time with the company."

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7762683.stm

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 11:35, 3rd December 2008
 
Indeed. Huge improvements in the year or so he was in charge. Can't help but think he's left before fully completing the transformation though, and wonder whether his recent sickness has caused this decision as it does seem a bit odd?

It's not worth speculating on why he decided to make his decision at the time he has, it is disappointing to see him leave, as he has done a lot of good for this company.

Still, it was always the intention to hand over the reins to Mark Hopwood, who's no stranger to being top-dog having performed similar roles at c2c amongst others. Mark's a clever chap - having worked quite closely with him during his early career at Thames Trains in the mid-90's, I can certainly vouch for his determination and abilities. It will be a testing time for him though as filling Andrew's boots will be no mean feat.

Agreed, and true about the intention for Mark to eventually take over FGW anyway.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:16, 3rd December 2008
 
Indeed. Huge improvements in the year or so he was in charge. Can't help but think he's left before fully completing the transformation though, and wonder whether his recent sickness has caused this decision as it does seem a bit odd?

Still, it was always the intention to hand over the reins to Mark Hopwood, who's no stranger to being top-dog having performed similar roles at c2c amongst others. Mark's a clever chap - having worked quite closely with him during his early career at Thames Trains in the mid-90's, I can certainly vouch for his determination and abilities. It will be a testing time for him though as filling Andrew's boots will be no mean feat.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Tim at 09:20, 3rd December 2008
 
Thanks Andrew for your efforts at FGW.  You leave the company in a much better state than when you joined and for should be proud of that

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 09:06, 3rd December 2008
 
I have posted this in the Who's Who bit, but just to confirm in this thread that Andrew will be leaving First Group.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 09:00, 3rd December 2008
 
I earlier reported on my blog that Andrew Haines will be leaving the company, that is both First GW and First UK Rail.

May I take the opportunity here to wish him well in the future.

http://iworkforfgw.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by devon_metro at 16:55, 2nd December 2008
 
Heard hes returned. Cannot confirm.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 14:26, 28th November 2008
 
Chris - thanks for moving this.   Yes - it was a good idea to move it to the "Frequent Poster's Club" where it can only be read by folks who have reached a certain minimum number of posts.

And, here in "the Club", I'll comment that I have heard a somewhat different background as to why Andrew's not at his post at present ... so "unconfirmed rumour" is very much the best thing to say for the moment (unless of course one rumour's substance has caused the other rumour's effect)

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:54, 27th November 2008
 
Thank you to Ollie, John R and Btline for your comments: I agree, and this topic has been moved accordingly.

Chris.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Btline at 23:19, 27th November 2008
 
Perhaps this thread should be moved to the frequent posters' club, so that the Joe Bloggs person can't view it.

Nevertheless, I would also like to add "Get well soon" as he has done well.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by John R at 23:16, 27th November 2008
 
I agree with Ollie, in that I think posting speculation about the cause of Andrew Haines' absence is inappropriate, even if such rumours are doing the rounds within FGW.

And like other posters I wish him well and hope he makes a full recovery. He has made such a difference to FGW that I do hope he is well enough to return at some point. 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 23:00, 27th November 2008
 
Ollie doesn't like this kind of speculation about somebodies well being, I just don't think it's appropriate to put rumours on a public forum like this, we already seen how the press use this forum and get it all wrong.

My view is I hope whatever is wrong he is on the mend, because he's a decent guy, and we (fgw) need him back.

For the record, Mary Grant is Acting MD of First UK Rail and Mark Hopwood is Acting MD of FGW

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Timmer at 20:25, 27th November 2008
 
if rumour is to be believed then mr haines has had a nervous breakdown and is not going to be returning to FGW,the same source also said his replacement is from scotrail although i cannot remember her name.

as i said just depot rumour so watch this space i suppose
Recent reports say that Mary Grant has taken over from Andrew Haines as head of First's rail division for the time being.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Super Guard at 19:23, 27th November 2008
 
I also have heard this rumour today, although no idea how reliable the source is.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by smithy at 19:21, 27th November 2008
 
if rumour is to be believed then mr haines has had a nervous breakdown and is not going to be returning to FGW,the same source also said his replacement is from scotrail although i cannot remember her name.

as i said just depot rumour so watch this space i suppose

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 13:30, 21st November 2008
 
Yeah SDA it is just whilst he is away.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Super Guard at 23:30, 20th November 2008
 
I read about these changes a couple of weeks ago, and it also said that Andrew Haines would be off for a bit longer, so I don't think this is anything long-term.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:20, 20th November 2008
 
Further details, from Railnews, at http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/business/2008/11/14-first-change.html:

First ScotRail managing director Mary Grant has become acting MD of FirstGroup^s UK rail division due to the ill health of Andrew Haines.

Mr Haines is also chief executive officer of First Great Western, taking over from Alison Forster in September last year at a time when the franchise was beset by performance problems.

During the temporary situation the day-to-day running of FGW has been taken over by acting managing director Mark Hopwood, the performance director for FGW who joined the company after being MD of London Lines.

Steve Montgomery, director of operations and safety for ScotRail, has assumed the position of acting managing director.

Mary Grant has been MD of ScotRail for four years, during which she has won a number of major rail and Scottish business awards.

A spokeswoman for FGW said: ^Andrew is on sick leave at the moment so there have been some changes for the time being.^

I'd like to add my own very best wishes to Andrew for a speedy recovery.  Chris. 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Ollie at 20:13, 20th November 2008
 
Can confirm he is off sick.
At FGW Mark Hopwood is currently Acting Managing Director.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by smithy at 19:56, 20th November 2008
 
i can confirm he is off sick as someone is covering him at FGW think his name is mike dont know surname though,not sure what is wrong with him but it seems like he has been off a while now.

i agree he has done a good job at fgw but a lot still needs doing so wish him all the best for a speedy recovery

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 19:20, 20th November 2008
 
If I get a confirmation / second source of this story, I'll be coming right back on to this thread to say some very positive things about Andrew too.   Come to think of it - I'll say some very positive things even if it turns out to be an erroneous report - Andrew has done a great deal [all around], achieved a great deal [notable exception - TransWilts] and sometimes we're far too scant in our priase.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by John R at 18:35, 20th November 2008
 
I second that motion. Get well soon Andrew.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Timmer at 17:41, 20th November 2008
 
May I take this opportunity to wish Andrew a speedy recovery. Get Well Soon.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 16:23, 20th November 2008
 
From: http://www.railnews.co.uk/

Top level switch at First Group due to MD illness

FIRST ScotRail managing director Mary Grant has become acting MD of FirstGroup's UK rail division due to the ill health of Andrew Haines.

I have no background on this ... if anyone can fill in or tell us more, it would be great - at the moment with just a single source I'm just saying "uncomfirmed quote".

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 19:02, 28th September 2008
 

Oops.. Yes sorry I did mean to write he'd done a marvellous job for Maidenhead to Paddington, as that is the only experience of FGW I have.. I do hope he'll improve the TransWilts service significantly too...


Jo, I'm delighted with the improvements you've seen and so have many others, and congratulations on these improvements are in order.  And I'm doubly delighted because it shows us that here is someone who CAN make things happen  

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by johoare at 18:41, 28th September 2008
 
I think Andrew Haines has done a marvellous job.. I've gone from arriving in Paddington late (sometimes very late) practically every single day, to arriving on time nearly all the time.. The timetable is also a lot better than it was when FGW first changed it..  Although there are still a couple of gaps in the timetable for Maidenhead, I'd much rather it is left as it is as we know that it works!! 

Jo, I agree with you over the vast majority of the area.

Just one service that he has NOT yet sorted out - the TransWilts - which connects the five largest towns in Wiltshire with a service that remains not fit for purpose (if you believe that the purpose is carrying passengers when they want to travel rather than meeting the DfT's daft specification).

2 years on, and a service that had been growing dramatically and where the trains were "nesting" (Nearly Every Seat Taken) in the peaks remains reduced to a "marginal time only" service - marginal time being the provision of trains when they're not needed on other lines (and, frankly, there's not much call for them in Wiltshire either).

Pilning too still remains 80% cut (a fifth of its former train service) but it's a small village compared to the TransWilts towns of Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Warminster and Salisbury ... which are set to grow 50% in the next 20 years and goodness only knows how the roads will cope.  I flew back into Heathrow on Friday, and found myself using National Express (actually a First group coach with every seat taken, heaters jammed on, windows sealed, no aircon!) to Chippenham and a Taxi - pretty horrid after an 8 hour flight.  We know that in these parts at least, between 8 and 10 people will use the train for every ione who uses the bus.

So - congratulations so far Andrew.   You've shown us what you can do in so many places - now please do it for us in Wiltshire where we have the area that's projected to grow the fastest in the whole South West

Oops.. Yes sorry I did mean to write he'd done a marvellous job for Maidenhead to Paddington, as that is the only experience of FGW I have.. I do hope he'll improve the TransWilts service significantly too...

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by grahame at 18:36, 28th September 2008
 
I think Andrew Haines has done a marvellous job.. I've gone from arriving in Paddington late (sometimes very late) practically every single day, to arriving on time nearly all the time.. The timetable is also a lot better than it was when FGW first changed it..  Although there are still a couple of gaps in the timetable for Maidenhead, I'd much rather it is left as it is as we know that it works!! 

Jo, I agree with you over the vast majority of the area.

Just one service that he has NOT yet sorted out - the TransWilts - which connects the five largest towns in Wiltshire with a service that remains not fit for purpose (if you believe that the purpose is carrying passengers when they want to travel rather than meeting the DfT's daft specification).

2 years on, and a service that had been growing dramatically and where the trains were "nesting" (Nearly Every Seat Taken) in the peaks remains reduced to a "marginal time only" service - marginal time being the provision of trains when they're not needed on other lines (and, frankly, there's not much call for them in Wiltshire either).

Pilning too still remains 80% cut (a fifth of its former train service) but it's a small village compared to the TransWilts towns of Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Warminster and Salisbury ... which are set to grow 50% in the next 20 years and goodness only knows how the roads will cope.  I flew back into Heathrow on Friday, and found myself using National Express (actually a First group coach with every seat taken, heaters jammed on, windows sealed, no aircon!) to Chippenham and a Taxi - pretty horrid after an 8 hour flight.  We know that in these parts at least, between 8 and 10 people will use the train for every ione who uses the bus.

So - congratulations so far Andrew.   You've shown us what you can do in so many places - now please do it for us in Wiltshire where we have the area that's projected to grow the fastest in the whole South West

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by johoare at 18:21, 28th September 2008
 
I think Andrew Haines has done a marvellous job.. I've gone from arriving in Paddington late (sometimes very late) practically every single day, to arriving on time nearly all the time.. The timetable is also a lot better than it was when FGW first changed it..  Although there are still a couple of gaps in the timetable for Maidenhead, I'd much rather it is left as it is as we know that it works!! 

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by The SprinterMeister at 10:48, 28th September 2008
 
We finished the period with a PPM of 91.2%.

FGWs target PPM is 86.2%.

Things are improving day-by-day.

Although this weeks PPM will be shot (through no fault of FGW!!) because of yesterday evenings rush-hour Severn Tunnel farce.

Tunnel shut again due to some kind of problem yesterday (28-09-08). 1L17 & 2U20 in some kind of contretempt I gather.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by ila700 at 08:08, 26th September 2008
 
Er flamingo. I said that. The networkrail chap cold not have been more complimentary about FGW. What I did not like before was the blame everyone else. With that attitude we were never going to get a decent service. You look as if you are part of that school. Sad   

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Chris2 at 16:58, 24th September 2008
 
In the year that Andrew Haines has been in charge, my opinion of the company has improved significantly. With the announcements of improved services on branch lines in Cornwall. I would like to say thanks as my commute has become a lot more punctual, they still have bad days and delayed trains but they are no where near as severe as they were twelve months ago.

If the improvement continues the way it has in the last twelve months where will we be in twelve months time? Yes there are still some anomalies in service like a gap of over an hour from the 1555 to the 1725 from Plymouth into Cornwall west of Liskeard and other stations that deserve a better service (transwilts). But to be honest I would rate them at least 20 to 30 percent better than they were last year judged on my recent experiences.

I don't know what will happen when crosscountry and first great western update there timetables in December on the Cornish Main Line but hopefully it is another step in the right direction.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by gpn01 at 16:46, 24th September 2008
 
Much more reliable service compared to a year ago.  Improvement in information given to customers when there have been delays....yep definitely an improved "customer experience".  Well done to everybody at FGW.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Lee at 22:31, 23rd September 2008
 
Welcome to the forum, ila700

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by ila700 at 22:28, 23rd September 2008
 
First post for me. I joined this site because I wanted to have a whinge. That was earlier this year. I travel between Reading and Paddington daily. I have not posted because having had many weeks of misery in 2007 I can not believe what has happened and all for the better. Andrew Haines definetly has my vote. I am very impressed. I was hoping to meet him at the last meet the manager meeting in Paddington to shake his hand rather than ring his neck. It was there I got talking to one of the network rail chaps and he was telling me about all the things that had been done on the line by the staff and how they had gone about their task with great help from the train operators. It was that last bit that stuck in my head. I remember only too well those flyers left on our seats saying it had nothing to do with FGW which was kidding nobody. Now can Mr Haines do something about the extortionate price of our tickets?           

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by r james at 23:39, 18th September 2008
 
I seem to get delayed less now between Bristol and Swansea on the various journeys I make. WHich is good.  Seemed to come a time where  expected it to be late at Bristol.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Boppy at 11:33, 18th September 2008
 
Hi,

As a customer who commutes between Reading and Paddington I feel that the service has definitely improved and over the last few months I've been very pleased.  I would also like to thank Andrew Haines for the additional Off-Peak First Class upgrade that I hear was his idea to instigate during August!

Boppy.

Re: Andrew Haines - First Group / First Great Western (merged topics)
Posted by Sprog at 08:10, 18th September 2008
 
We finished the period with a PPM of 91.2%.

FGWs target PPM is 86.2%.

Things are improving day-by-day.

Although this weeks PPM will be shot (through no fault of FGW!!) because of yesterday evenings rush-hour Severn Tunnel farce.

 
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