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| Re: The tale of rail aie trails In "Introductions and chat" [380705/32598/1] Posted by bradshaw at 08:23, 11th October 2026 | ![]() |
Salisbury to Exeter Rail Ale Trail
The Salisbury to Exeter Rail Ale Trail encourages people from near and far to visit local pubs by train and has gained national recognition as a significant tourism and leisure initiative, being awarded a Certificate of Excellence at the recent Community Rail Awards in Newcastle.
The trail includes 19 pubs along the railway that links the two cities, all of them within easy reach of the stations in the towns and villages it serves. Collect 10 stamps to win a T-shirt.
https://www.blackmorevaletrains.com/rail-ale-trail/The trail includes 19 pubs along the railway that links the two cities, all of them within easy reach of the stations in the towns and villages it serves. Collect 10 stamps to win a T-shirt.
| Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026 In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury" [380704/31359/18] Posted by grahame at 07:16, 11th October 2026 | ![]() |
11:43 Swindon to Weymouth due 13:57
11:43 Swindon to Weymouth due 13:57 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Frome, Bruton, Castle Cary, Yeovil Pen Mill, Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
11:43 Swindon to Weymouth due 13:57 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Frome, Bruton, Castle Cary, Yeovil Pen Mill, Thornford, Yetminster, Chetnole, Maiden Newton, Dorchester West, Upwey and Weymouth.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
| Re: The tale of rail aie trails In "Introductions and chat" [380703/32598/1] Posted by grahame at 07:02, 11th October 2026 | ![]() |
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2. Rose & Crown, Trowbridge (an excellent hostelry);
3. Queen's Tap, Swindon (another excellent hostelry).
I can't quite place the first one. Not The Railway Inn at Yatton, I assume?
CfN.

2. Rose & Crown, Trowbridge (an excellent hostelry);
3. Queen's Tap, Swindon (another excellent hostelry).
I can't quite place the first one. Not The Railway Inn at Yatton, I assume?

CfN.

The Railway Inn at Westbury ... three hostelries at which I have partaken refreshment and met with fellow advocates for public transport whilst awaiting a timed happening - such as a train departure to Melksham or a meeting concerning said transport.
I've not got a current close-to-station place to mention in Chippenham - Google Maps suggest the Old Road Tavern there, but meetings there tend to be at the Rivo Lounge which is a fair step from the station, or at the Hearty Hare at the station which is cafe rather than pub.
| Re: Grand Central applies for Newcastle–Brighton via North Downs In "North Downs Line" [380702/30190/16] Posted by 1st fan at 02:12, 11th October 2026 Already liked by eightonedee | ![]() |
That looks like it would be an attractive alternative for getting to Gatwick from Reading compared to the current GWR Turbo service - assuming decent rolling stock.
Reminds me of the old Virgin/XC service from Manchester to Brighton which from memory ran:
Brighton, Haywards Heath, Gatwick Airport, East Croydon, Clapham Junction, Kensington Olympia, Reading, Oxford, Banbury, Leamington Spa, Birmingham New Street, Stoke on Trent, Stockport & Manchester Piccadilly.
In the beginning it was Mk3 carriages and ended up as a Voyager when the service sadly ended in 2008. I liked that service as it saved going to Euston even if that was quicker.
Actually, thinking about it again, JayMac, I may reconsider that approach - on two grounds:
1. The Wetherspoons in Nailsea is not particularly close to our local railway station, but it's the closest you get;
2. I may be basing my apparent aversion to black pudding on one bad experience elsewhere, many years ago.
I shall therefore call in at our local Wetherspoons for a Freedom Breakfast and add black pudding for an extra 95p.
I'll let you all know how it goes.

They've boisterous teenagers, not battered Mars Bars, for goodness' sake

. . .
For context to some of our possibly puzzled members and guests here on the Coffee Shop forum, see Wikipedia.

CfN.

Word reaches me from a trundling trencherman (guess who?
) that Wetherspoons have added black pudding to their breakfast menu.
Excellent.
) that Wetherspoons have added black pudding to their breakfast menu. Excellent.

Posting personally (again), I always decline any offer of including black pudding to my breakfast meal.

Just fry the little sods that did the damage,actually as it’s in Scotland deep fry them.
| Re: The tale of rail aie trails In "Introductions and chat" [380696/32598/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:22, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
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2. Rose & Crown, Trowbridge (an excellent hostelry);
3. Queen's Tap, Swindon (another excellent hostelry).
I can't quite place the first one. Not The Railway Inn at Yatton, I assume?

CfN.

| Re: Station fire at Paignton, particularly the footbridge - 21 July 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [380693/32262/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 21:23, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
I was down there today. A ticket machine has been installed next to the portacabin cemented into the ground and a big train information display on the platform by the temporary access ramp. There are two ticket windows in the portacabin so those buying a ticket will not get wet if it rained; those queuing will. The train in the platform was at the old stopping marks.
This arrangement looks like it is for the long term. No idea what GWR are thinking maybe in conjunction with the council who have long term plans for the station and station car park. If GWR are just planning reinstatement then planning permission wouldn't be needed. I not sure if any changes GWR wanted to make would even need it if on railway land.
I don't know if the new depot at Exeter required planning permission. Edginswell did as it also used non railway land. The permissions for that expire November 2026.
| Re: Birmingham Airport announces £2bn expansion - October 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380692/32597/51] Posted by John D at 20:56, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
Yes, IF you can persuade many of the foreign airlines to put on flights from these regions, as well as London.
They won't, because it's one plane load generally. Occasionally, two, and then Manchester sometimes gets one.
They won't, because it's one plane load generally. Occasionally, two, and then Manchester sometimes gets one.
I don't think it will affect airlines using Heathrow, but possibly foreign carriers that can't afford (or don't like idea of paying for) expensive London airport slots might be interested.
My guess those doing Long haul at Gatwick, might like the idea if price is right. HS2 from Birmingham Interchange to Old Oak is estimated at 31-32 minutes, bit faster than Gatwick to Victoria.
There are quite a few potential airlines who are at Gatwick, eg : Air Arabia, Air China, Air India, Air Mauritius, Air Zimbabwe, Azerbaijan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Ethiopian Airlines, Gulf Air, Jet Blue, Kenya Airways, Singapore Airlines, Turkish Airlines, Turkmenistan Airlines, Uganda Airlines, Uzbekistan Airways, Westjet etc.
| Re: Lostwithiel - footbridge, services and sidings (merged topic) In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [380690/2681/25] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:49, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
Previous topics and posts on the particular subject of pubs (including Wetherspoons) have now been moved and merged into one definitive topic, at https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15910.0
I hope this helps. CfN.

Previous topics and posts on this particular subject now merged here.

| Re: Lostwithiel - footbridge, services and sidings (merged topic) In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [380688/2681/25] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:56, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
There is every chance, ChrisB: I am already looking into merging Kernow Otter's post with posts from two of Grahame's topics into one new topic and renaming it accordingly, in a definitive topic.
I shall update our Coffee Shop members here when my work is done.
CfN.

Ideally you would do the job properly and run them to Crewe and onwards.
What a radical suggestion!

| Re: Birmingham Airport announces £2bn expansion - October 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380685/32597/51] Posted by ChrisB at 19:24, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
Yes, IF you can persuade many of the foreign airlines to put on flights from these regions, as well as London.
They won't, because it's one plane load generally. Occasionally, two, and then Manchester sometimes gets one.
This popped up in Wokingham Today this week, and I was not quite sure what I remembered about it, or why it was news. They did mention the four 180s GC have pre-booked for this route if approved; it was also linked in some reports to the decisions promised last week. I think it is still due real soon now, honest, so I did a bit of revision of the details.
It was first submitted in April 2025, and revised in December, and is one of the five further OA applications ORR have in their in tray after the three they killed off last week. These are all "section 17" applications, meaning Network Rail (and others) are disputing their acceptability. There's a list of them behind the link on this page, and the description of GC's proposal is in their "Form P". There are also other documents there now, e.g. trying to persuade NR how easy it is to fit these paths in.
The full route they are asking for runs (and calls at): Newcastle, Durham, Darlington, Northallerton, York, Doncaster, Sheffield, Derby, Burton-on-Trent, Birmingham New Street, Warwick Parkway, Banbury, Oxford, Reading, Wokingham, Guildford, Redhill, Gatwick Airport, Haywards Heath and Brighton.
it's not going to be impressively quick, as on some bits - notably the Brighton Line - the only capacity they can claim is spare is on the slow lines. They do still claim a time advantage but that's mainly by running direct from their stations to Gatwick (which is their big draw in terms of attracting enough passengers).
This is their rationale, from the Form P:
Through this application, GC is seeking to provide more direct rail connectivity to areas which we consider underserved, and provide passengers with an additional option for environmentally friendly transport to London Gatwick Airport from the Midlands and North East of England, when compared to driving, or coach travel.
The new services will bring the benefits of competition, as experienced on the East Coast Mainline (ECML), to the cross- country route, which between the ECML and South East of England has no competition to the fare setter, other than premium fares via London.
This application will support the continued expansion of GC to the benefit of passengers, in particular introducing direct rail connectivity between the South Coast and the Northeast of England, where GC has a long track record of supporting underserved communities, while also growing overall revenue and patronage on rail services. In addition, this new proposed route will also directly connect England’s second most populous city, Birmingham and surrounding areas to the second busiest airport in the UK, which in 2024 served 43.2 million passengers, and whose stated goal is to serve 80 million passengers annually by the late 2030s with the project to open a second runway currently underway.
GC has already had discussions with London Gatwick, who welcome this application and are excited about the opportunities it creates for more direct connectivity to the airport. It also re- connects Birmingham with the largest British conurbation without a current direct rail service, in Brighton and Hove.
This application is made considering the implementation of the East Coast Mainline (ECML) Event Steering Group (ESG) timetable in December 2025, our timetable also makes updates and considers the May 2026 timetable.
These new direct GC services provide rail journey times between the Southeast and Birmingham/Oxford, which compete favourably with the fastest current rail journey times (e.g. Gatwick Airport – Birmingham GC 3h 00, compared to 2h 40), which involve at least one interchange, usually including a change between London termini. Direct journey times are also comparable with average road journey times (c3h 00 for Gatwick Airport – Birmingham by car, and 4h 00 by coach), without the added uncertainty from the use of the congested M25. This is particularly true of poorly served stations for these routes, such as Guildford (Guildford – Birmingham GC 2h 14, against current rail 2h 30 via Reading, or 2h 45 by car).
On longer journeys from the Southeast to the Northeast, the GC proposed direct journey times also compare favourably with car and coach journey times, although they are slower than the premium- priced services requiring a cross-London interchange. For example, beyond Derby, coach services to Gatwick Airport require an interchange, which means the current cost-effective solution takes, for example, from York 8 hours by coach and 5 hours by car, compared to the direct proposed 5 hours by GC.
The new services will bring the benefits of competition, as experienced on the East Coast Mainline (ECML), to the cross- country route, which between the ECML and South East of England has no competition to the fare setter, other than premium fares via London.
This application will support the continued expansion of GC to the benefit of passengers, in particular introducing direct rail connectivity between the South Coast and the Northeast of England, where GC has a long track record of supporting underserved communities, while also growing overall revenue and patronage on rail services. In addition, this new proposed route will also directly connect England’s second most populous city, Birmingham and surrounding areas to the second busiest airport in the UK, which in 2024 served 43.2 million passengers, and whose stated goal is to serve 80 million passengers annually by the late 2030s with the project to open a second runway currently underway.
GC has already had discussions with London Gatwick, who welcome this application and are excited about the opportunities it creates for more direct connectivity to the airport. It also re- connects Birmingham with the largest British conurbation without a current direct rail service, in Brighton and Hove.
This application is made considering the implementation of the East Coast Mainline (ECML) Event Steering Group (ESG) timetable in December 2025, our timetable also makes updates and considers the May 2026 timetable.
These new direct GC services provide rail journey times between the Southeast and Birmingham/Oxford, which compete favourably with the fastest current rail journey times (e.g. Gatwick Airport – Birmingham GC 3h 00, compared to 2h 40), which involve at least one interchange, usually including a change between London termini. Direct journey times are also comparable with average road journey times (c3h 00 for Gatwick Airport – Birmingham by car, and 4h 00 by coach), without the added uncertainty from the use of the congested M25. This is particularly true of poorly served stations for these routes, such as Guildford (Guildford – Birmingham GC 2h 14, against current rail 2h 30 via Reading, or 2h 45 by car).
On longer journeys from the Southeast to the Northeast, the GC proposed direct journey times also compare favourably with car and coach journey times, although they are slower than the premium- priced services requiring a cross-London interchange. For example, beyond Derby, coach services to Gatwick Airport require an interchange, which means the current cost-effective solution takes, for example, from York 8 hours by coach and 5 hours by car, compared to the direct proposed 5 hours by GC.
Of course it will still most likely be refused.
| Re: Direct London trains from Shropshire 'will not start in 2026' In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [380682/31388/28] Posted by eXPassenger at 17:58, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
So the problem is a lack of capacity on the WCML. I wonder how the number of available paths could be increased?
I am sure you are thinking of an additional pair of lines for anyone wanting to go from Old Oak Common tp Solihull
Ideally you would do the job properly and run them to Crewe and onwards.
| Re: Birmingham Airport announces £2bn expansion - October 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380681/32597/51] Posted by Sixty3Closure at 17:18, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
I'm sure there's a reason somewhere but I struggle to understand why there isn't more investment in regional airports across the UK as opposed to spending a fortune on Heathrow. Relatives in Scotland often have to come to London/South East for flights as none in Scotland. That seems bad on many levels.
Wouldn't moving some of these flights to the regions then free up capacity?
See also a previous topic, which Coffee Shop forum member Kernow Otter reminded me about:
Can't for the life of me find what I recall was a specific thread on 'pubs near stations' ...
It took even me a while, but I have now found it for you, Kernow Otter: see https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15910.0
That topic was originally specific to Wetherspoons at railway stations, but it did indeed expand to cover 'public houses near the railways' generally.
CfN.


| Re: Hospice charity 'disappointed' after its miniature railway targeted by vandals In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380678/32600/51] Posted by ChrisB at 16:25, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
Electrify it...
| Re: Direct London trains from Shropshire 'will not start in 2026' In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [380677/31388/28] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:25, 10th October 2026 | ![]() |
In the interests of clarity, I have now amended the original heading of this topic - which I started, in all good faith.















