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MOVED: Ann Widdecombe - moved topic
In "Across the West" [376934/32219/26]
Posted by grahame at 10:34, 11th July 2026
 
This topic has been moved to The West - but NOT trains in the West.

Now in "The West, but not trains in The  West".   An event / passing which is clearly West, is clearly tangential to our main topics, but is recorded and reported here out of respect.

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7855.0

Re: Ann Widdecombe RIP - moved topic
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376933/7855/31]
Posted by grahame at 10:29, 11th July 2026
 
This is a tragic human event - I wonder whether "Across the West - General rail topics" is really the most appropriate place for its discussion?

Moderators - could it perhaps be moved to a more suitable location?

It should, perhaps, be "The West, but not trains in the west".   The question does arise as to what we cover and don't cover away from rail and other transport topics.  For this topic, a move is appropriate (and I'll do it in a few minutes), but that is far from setting an "any subject goes" precedent.

Subject to review / update from moderator colleagues too.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [376931/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:01, 11th July 2026
 
Friday 10 July:

1W21 1053 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill cancelled due to an issue with the train crew (TG).

1W25 1252 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street cancelled between Oxford and Worcester Foregate Street due to unknown cause (ZW).

1P26 1316 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford due to unknown cause (ZW).

1W29 1453 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street cancelled due to unknown cause (ZW).

1P30 1518 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI).

1P32 1518 Hereford to London Paddington diverted via Swindon

2E14 1704 Didcot Parkway to Evesham cancelled between Oxford and Evesham due to unknown cause (ZW).

1P36 1726 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington cancelled due to the train operator's request (TB).

1W03 1734 London Paddington to Hereford cancelled due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS).

2E16 1851 Evesham to Oxford cancelled due to unknown cause (ZW).

1P46 2200 Hereford to London Paddington cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI).

Not quite sure about the auto-added info to the TG code above!!!!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376928/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:29, 11th July 2026
 
Oh dear ... we are told not to mention BBQs.  So perhaps I should not mention a football match in Miami tonight?

There is a sad pattern ... "severe weather", big match, public holidays ... where GWR are simply unable to provide the service that they are contracted to provide or the public really need if they are to rely on trains.  I am not looking to attach any blame there - just stating a fact we can see from the stats.  98% achieved on a "normal" week - a fair weather railway, but then it goes pear-shaped.    But then once the immediate situation is resolved, we move on / persuaded to the "yes it's better" and the underlying things that caused the problems are just glossed over / forgotten - except by the disappointed customers who are put off / have been suppressed from using the railway.

I think one of the most frustrating things here is that so many of these cancellations are down to avoidable own goals - GWR (and it is 100% their responsibility as the employer) failing to provide a tolerable working environment for their staff, failing to manage heat related risks which is seeing entire branches virtually shut down for much of the day as staff, quite rightly, do not feel safe or able to work in these conditions.

The message again - don't rely on the railway in anything other than Spring-like conditions, or as Graham suggests,  during holiday periods or major sporting (especially football) events.





Re: Ann Widdecombe RIP - moved topic
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376927/7855/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:10, 11th July 2026
 
This is a tragic human event - I wonder whether "Across the West - General rail topics" is really the most appropriate place for its discussion?

Moderators - could it perhaps be moved to a more suitable location?

Re: SWR timetable consultation - a suggestion
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [376926/32168/20]
Posted by Mark A at 08:54, 11th July 2026
 
Looking to the pre-2021 timetable, the 19:20 from Waterloo saw the train split at Salisbury, the front portion went off out West and the rear portion headed for Bristol and then returned to Salisbury.

2026, and its nearest equivalent in the timetable splits at Salisbury, the front portion heads for the likes of Yeovil Junction and the rear portion heads for the depot for the night, so while there's still the issue of train staff and route knowledge Westbury to Bristol and back, for that service at least there's no need to be coupling 159s and 158s. Also, I believe on its late evening return from Bristol to Salisbury that train wasn't exactly carrying fresh air. Anecdotally, the only time I saw it at Bath Spa it was around 80% full. In the 2026 timetable, is there even an equivalent service?

Mark

Re: Ann Widdecombe RIP - moved topic
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376925/7855/31]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 08:48, 11th July 2026
 
The individual arrested on suspicion of committing murder has been released from police custody and is no longer part of the investigation.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [376924/18719/26]
Posted by bobm at 08:29, 11th July 2026
Already liked by JohnM, rogerw
 
As opposed to me who uses electricity to make food look like charcoal. 


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376923/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:42, 11th July 2026
Already liked by JohnM
 
Oh dear ... we are told not to mention BBQs.  So perhaps I should not mention a football match in Miami tonight?

There is a sad pattern ... "severe weather", big match, public holidays ... where GWR are simply unable to provide the service that they are contracted to provide or the public really need if they are to rely on trains.  I am not looking to attach any blame there - just stating a fact we can see from the stats.  98% achieved on a "normal" week - a fair weather railway, but then it goes pear-shaped.    But then once the immediate situation is resolved, we move on / persuaded to the "yes it's better" and the underlying things that caused the problems are just glossed over / forgotten - except by the disappointed customers who are put off / have been suppressed from using the railway.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376921/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 06:28, 11th July 2026
 
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:18
18:35 Westbury to Swindon due 19:17
19:44 Swindon to Westbury due 20:29

19:44 Swindon to Westbury due 20:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [376920/18719/26]
Posted by broadgage at 00:22, 11th July 2026
 
If anyone mentions BBQs, I shall ... I shall ... No - just please don't. 



I would imagine last night's match in New York may have had more than a little influence on crew availability today......football matches where beer is involved have previously been cited by those in the know as a contributory factor!

That's not to say of course that said match, given the late kick off was not preceded by food prepared outdoors over charcoal on a type of grill?

A minority of outdoor grills use LPG or even electricity to produce a similar result to charcoal.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376918/31359/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:43, 10th July 2026
 
Hold old are these units? What was the average summer temperatuire back then>? Why would you design an AC that needed to do much more than average at that time? You wouldn't

They all need new kit. There is no money, so units are failed by drivers

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376917/31359/18]
Posted by John D at 21:37, 10th July 2026
 
Down to Drivers deciding cabs are too hot to work in at some stage in their shift
which rather suggests the maintenance depots are not maintaining the a/c to expected standards of train crew (it's like they work for different companies with different standards).

The new Emirates stock designed to not exceed 23c even when outside temperature is +60c, Eurostar new stock has been specified to work at +55c.    GWR depots cannot cope with maintaining it to cope with temperatures nearer 33c, a mere 10c reduction required (rather than 22-27c reduction)

I guess the depots revealingly their quality standards, but worth remembering same depots with these standards also maintain the trains brakes.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376916/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:34, 10th July 2026
 
........and for a bit of variety.....

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376913/31359/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:10, 10th July 2026
 
Down to Drivers deciding cabs are too hot to work in at some stage in their shift

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376912/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:54, 10th July 2026
 

.....perhaps it's send them out on a wing & a prayer and hope for the best?


Rather like the Battle of Britain, then: put up everything we've got, knowing that some of them won't make it back. 


Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376911/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:02, 10th July 2026
 
Would it be realistic (though uncharitable) to suggest that GWR are sending out trains at the start of the day that aren't going to be able to manage their full diagram?

Given the number of other lines listed in a similar position to the TransWilts I don't think anyone would challenge that view too much.....perhaps it's send them out on a wing & a prayer and hope for the best?
.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376909/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:18, 10th July 2026
 
Would it be realistic (though uncharitable) to suggest that GWR are sending out trains at the start of the day that aren't going to be able to manage their full diagram?

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [376908/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 19:02, 10th July 2026
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21 has been cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56
20:12 Swindon to Westbury due 20:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

Re: Ann Widdecombe RIP - moved topic
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376907/7855/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:51, 10th July 2026
 
An update, from the BBC:

Ann Widdecombe murder probe: What we know so far

Police have launched a murder investigation into the death of Ann Widdecombe and a 26-year-old white British man has been arrested.

Devon and Cornwall Police say the 78-year-old former Conservative minister turned Reform UK spokeswoman was found dead at her home on Dartmoor in Devon on Thursday morning with serious injuries.

A 26-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder in connection with the incident, police have said.

Devon and Cornwall Police's Assistant Chief Constable Matt Longman told a press conference there was "no information that this is a politically motivated crime" and also confirmed the incident was not being treated as terror-related.

Earlier, the force said Widdecombe was found dead with serious injuries at her home in Haytor, a village on Dartmoor, on Thursday morning when officers were called by the ambulance service at around 11:40 BST.

Widdecombe's death was announced on Friday morning by her management team, but there was no information about when, how or where she died, and no detail on any suspicious circumstances.

The statement said in part: "We know this news will come as a great shock to the many colleagues and friends she made along the way."

Later on Friday afternoon, police issued a statement saying they had launched a murder investigation and released details of a suspect.

Widdecombe's management team then released another statement, saying they were "absolutely devastated" by news of the police investigation "following a very traumatic and upsetting 24 hours".

A significant police presence remains at the house, with a BBC correspondent describing several police cars on the road outside and a police van on the driveway.

A 26-year-old white British man was arrested on Friday on suspicion of the murder of Widdecombe. He remains in police custody. He was arrested in Newton Abbot, a town roughly 10 miles from Haytor.

Officers initially said they were looking for a suspect, who they believed to be a white male, in connection with the case, which was "moving at a significant pace".

Det Ch Insp Ilona Rosson earlier said: "This is an extremely tragic incident and our thoughts are very much with the family and friends of Ann Widdecombe at this difficult time. I would appeal to anyone who may have information about this incident, however insignificant it may seem, to come forward and speak with us."


Re: Heritage railways crossing public highways - issues raised
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376906/32192/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:29, 10th July 2026
 
Indeed, stuving.

I note that the Oxford Mail and Swindon Advertiser articles are both credited to "Madeleine Evans, Reporter". 


Re: Server slow ...
In "News, Help and Assistance" [376905/30293/29]
Posted by grahame at 18:27, 10th July 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM
 
The number on line peaked at 8771 earlier today.  That’s a rather unwelcome new record for the most on line at anyone time in the forum’s history. 

Indeed ... and I found a common theme in many of the excess visitors and diverted them away ... for a couple of minutes until I realised that I fell into the common theme too and I had diverted myself away.

I am looking for other themes / patterns ... watch this space.

I believe I have found something - a web page that resulted in a significant server load each time it was accessed.  It wasn't actually called up all that many times, but once there were several automata looking at it at the same time, the requests flooded in quicker than they were answered.    I still have my fingers crossed - the load spikes seemed to correlate with the page being accessed, and now that I have put something in to reduce their loading there have been no more spikes.   All circumstantial, eyes still open.  A bit of a surprise as to what it was / not related to vast numbers of visitors. Time will let me be more sure.

 
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