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As at 4th January 2025 22:12 GMT
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Re: GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
Posted by Kernow Otter at 17:49, 4th January 2025
 
You appear to have some engineering work down your way on the Sunday which will curtail the cheap fares

Thank you

Old Oak Common Christmas Work
Posted by lbraine at 17:35, 4th January 2025
 
Does anyone know if the planned work at OOC over the Christmas shutdown was completed?

I ask because prior to the shutdown I thought I had read that the work being undertaken was to slew lines (and presumably related infrastructure) into new positions for what will become the new OOC station.

But I’ve just seen a YouTube video post New Year and the line look like they are in the same place.

So did events unfold that meant the planned work could not be completed ? Or am I mis-remembering what was actually going to occur?

I’m left wondering what was actually undertaken during the extended shutdown?

GWR Train Crew Weymouth
Posted by 72c at 16:33, 4th January 2025
 
How do GWR crew the early starts and late arrivals at Weymouth please?

Thanks in anticipation

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by GBM at 15:37, 4th January 2025
 
Currently still not receiving email notifications.
Just tried a bounce test for my internal mail, and that's working OK.

As matt1j says, I press LIKE. This takes me to a new page with 'like wot he said earlier', so have to press the back button to return to the current topic.

Re: GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
Posted by ChrisB at 14:39, 4th January 2025
 
Now there's a good question!

There WAS talk of one, back in October I think, of one earlyish this year to celebrate Railway 200. It's gone quite quiet these days though, so ideas may have have changed & moved to operator sales instead - no one knows currenty

Re: Update on collapsed Bridgewater Canal
Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:50, 4th January 2025
 
Yes, the Manchester Ship Canal company (now Peel Holdings) had to buy out the Bridgewater Canal in the 1890s prior to the construction of the MSC.

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 13:47, 4th January 2025
 
Nope, still not receiving any email alerts.
Sorry 

Yep, I know.  We're sending them out but they're not being accepted.  Your email host is a fussy one and even before it gets to your email system it is almost certainly being refused.

I reluctantly gave up on the struggle recently and started using a third-party host to send transactional mails. I use Amazon's SES, which allegedly stands for "Simple Email Service" though nothing with AWS is ever simple. But it works and the emails get delivered, which means I no longer have to answer queries about "my registration email hasn't arrived, how do I log in". There are lots of alternatives which tend to be easier to set up, but at a higher per-email cost.

https://www.mail-tester.com is really good for diagnosing mail deliverability issues though not foolproof.

edit: AWS in this case isn't Automatic Warning System (prevents SPADs aka Signals Passed At Danger) but Amazon Web Services (prevents SPADs aka Server Panics And Dies).

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:46, 4th January 2025
 
The things some people get up to in the early hours! 

Indeed. I am still trying to fathom it out.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 13:43, 4th January 2025
 
It's one of those proposals where a railway reopening would be a no-brainer in a sane country (Bridport 12k population, tourist potential, route mostly unobstructed). But as this is the UK it's out of the question and even a cycleway will take years of negotiation. I often wish we'd had the foresight to "rail-bank" former trackbeds as happens in the US.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Oxonhutch at 13:43, 4th January 2025
 
But if you call it a "Tramway" you might do better?

AFAIAA at that point a tramway would be just like a bus lane, and simple traffic lights maybe all that is required.

Re: Update on collapsed Bridgewater Canal
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 13:29, 4th January 2025
 
It's going to be an eight-figure sum to fix. Peel Holdings (who own the canal) can afford it, but I suspect they will try and get some money out of Government to do so.

There were negotiations a long time ago for British Waterways, as was, to take on the Bridgewater from Peel - I remember reporting on it for Waterways World. But BW were worried about maintenance liabilities and nothing ever came of it. I wonder if this might be a prompt to reopen that discussion.

Re: GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
Posted by XPT at 13:15, 4th January 2025
 
Thanks Grahame.  Yes those £12 fares between Melksham and Penzance are excellent value fares.  Though as you say, it appears they do offer fares as cheap as this at times anyway.  So this suggests this isn't really a sale.

I was looking at doing a trip from Bristol down to Plymouth and Penzance last month, to get a last journey or two on the HST's.  I didn't bother in the end.  But the fares I found then were actually around £10 from Bristol to Plymouth, and around £12 for Penzance to Bristol anyway. 

This sale isn't half as good as the GWR sales they've had say 6 or 7 years ago.  Back then it was quite easy to find bargain advance fares such as Bristol to London for £10 and a number of other destinations for excellent prices.  Not the case in this sale.  No bargain advance sale fares to/from places like London, Oxford, Southampton, Portsmouth, Worcester, Cardiff, etc.  They're just the same prices as normal.  A number of other people commenting similarly on the GWR Facebook page.

Is there going to be a Great British Rail Sale this year?  I think I'll wait for that instead!  That was very good last year and I think back in 2023 too.  It blew this current supposed GWR sale out of the water!

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by grahame at 11:14, 4th January 2025
 
Just noticed on the ‘look and feel’ selections, there’s some sort of artefact following the selected options about:



Those are very scruffy highlights at present - as you click on an option the artefact moves to the thing you have selected

Re: Outstanding server / web site issues
Posted by paul7575 at 11:04, 4th January 2025
 
Just noticed on the ‘look and feel’ selections, there’s some sort of artefact following the selected options about:


Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by LiskeardRich at 09:25, 4th January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

Maybe - or maybe I didn't look enough.  Whole variety of coaches at Trowbridge and I suspect the one with loos may have been in use on the longer (Salisbury) runs.

The white Truronian Mercedes in your photo doesn’t have a toilet.

Ours are the blue Megabus branded Interdecks. Toilet is located on the middle stair case. 

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by grahame at 08:45, 4th January 2025
 
Mark, I do admire wholeheartedly your optimism - but there is no way you will get any new level crossing, anywhere.

Portishead found that out - the hard way. 

Chris. 

But if you call it a "Tramway" you might do better?   Haven't Blackpool, Edinburgh and Manchester been able to expand in the current ere? The Chur to Arosa service is an interesting potential precedent and now that we're outside the EU just like Switzerland ...

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:10, 4th January 2025
 
Now this is remarkably topical, as I have just this moment been able to ask my daughter to measure my own horizontally outstretched arms, finger-tip to finger-tip, even while she is cooking a late-night snack. 

She gave the answer as 182 centimetres - which I promptly converted to 72 inches, in old money.

Therefore, I am the traditional fathom wide.

Chris.

The things some people get up to in the early hours! 

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by PrestburyRoad at 05:39, 4th January 2025
 

A somewhat similar device was used to move persons and light packages from one floor to another in a large factory or works, known as a "vertical conveyor belt"


A similar principle to the Paternoster lift.


Yes, it is in my view regrettable that Paternoster lifts are now virtually extinct in the UK.
Sheffield university has one, said to be the largest in the world, and Imperial College, London had one that was reputedly taken out of use after a fatal accident, and AFAIK a hospital still has one but for staff use only, not open to the public.

A variety of foolish pranks may be played including going over the top, and then performing a handstand so as to confirm the urban myth that going over the top inverts one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-south-yorkshire-42997131
Great fun


An small industrial paternoster lift that is alive and well and can be seen in the branch of McDonalds on Praed Street nearly opposite Paddington station.  It lifts food from the kitchen in the basement.  It's new - it would have been installed in the past year or so when the branch was opened.  The floor of each lift platform is like a comb, which passes through a fixed facing comb at servery level, and the food item gently slides from the platform to a holding area, from which staff assemble the the customer's order.  I was impressed at how this makes excellent use of space in the confined site.

Update on collapsed Bridgewater Canal
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:31, 4th January 2025
 
From YouTube: 30 minutes

As an ex-narrowboater myself, I feel every sympathy for them.

CfN.

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:22, 4th January 2025
 
Now this is remarkably topical, as I have just this moment been able to ask my daughter to measure my own horizontally outstretched arms, finger-tip to finger-tip, even while she is cooking a late-night snack. 

She gave the answer as 182 centimetres - which I promptly converted to 72 inches, in old money.

Therefore, I am the traditional fathom wide.

Chris.

Re: Mining in Cornwall
Posted by broadgage at 23:55, 3rd January 2025
 
I'd forgotten the length of a fathom. Reminded of it by the discovery that the name comes from an old word meaning 'Outstretched arms'.

Mark

Peoples arms have on average got longer, and finger tip to finger tip is now nearer 2 metres than 2 yards, in many cases.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by bradshaw at 22:43, 3rd January 2025
 
I do not believe it is realistic to expect the railway to reopen, despite ‘proposals’ by some groups.

https://www.facebook.com/maidennewtonbridportrailway/?locale=en_GB

https://www.bridportnews.co.uk/leisure/bestofbridport/19009071.community-railway-plan-bridport/

 David Shepherd looked at buying it just after the closure. The sticking point then was the cutting at Wytherstone which was in clay and slipping, which continues to this day and is part of the Nature Reserve.
Dorset Council seems to have a long term plan to make a cycle path over it but progress is slow. The section between Toller and Maiden Newton is being discussed with the farming community.
https://dorchestertransport.org.uk/2024/11/cycleway-on-former-railway-line-from-maiden-newton-to-bridport/
If they can get this opened then it will be possible to cycle from Maiden Newton to Loders. There are also plans to get some of the trackbed as a cyclepath from Loders to Bridport but it will not follow all the previous alignment.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:24, 3rd January 2025
 
Mark, I do admire wholeheartedly your optimism - but there is no way you will get any new level crossing, anywhere.

Portishead found that out - the hard way. 

Chris. 

Re: Warnings of snow, wind and rain across the UK for New Year
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:17, 3rd January 2025
 
I'm not going to even try to quote anything specific from this BBC item - it's being updated continuously.

Please: let's all be careful out there! 

Chris.

Re: Bridport branch reopening proposal
Posted by Mark A at 22:15, 3rd January 2025
 
**snip**
The plan is to remove the bridge and raise the level of the road to reduce the risk of future flooding. It is only the second bridge to have been removed, the other was by Powerstock station which was done to allow access to a farm for HGVs bringing cattle feed etc to it.

Second best to a bridge* might be to raise the road to trackbed level, flat crossing of the forthcoming shared use route with priority for the latter and a 'Give way' for users of the road. Road users stay dry, shared use path benefits from the lift in status, and also a continuous route.

Mark

*IMHO

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:13, 3rd January 2025
 
Were you expected to jog up & down and sign autographs after disembarking? 

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by JayMac at 20:39, 3rd January 2025
 
Last time I got on a rail replacement service at Westbury it was a very comfortable executive coach whose day job was as Taunton Town FC's team transport.


Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by grahame at 20:18, 3rd January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

Maybe - or maybe I didn't look enough.  Whole variety of coaches at Trowbridge and I suspect the one with loos may have been in use on the longer (Salisbury) runs.

Dilton Marsh - spring 2025 timetable
Posted by grahame at 20:06, 3rd January 2025
 
I visited Dilton Marsh yesterday and it's good to see a now-decent timetable on display





However, the station is closed until 24th January and any indication of what time the rail replacement bus are running is notable by its absence



Researching online at 12:30 (everyone in Dilton Marsh has a mobile phone, right?), I was disappointed to learn that there was no bus to replace the 12:37 train, and the bus to replace the 13:37 train wasn't due until 13:50 which meant it would miss the bus from Westbury to Melksham.  Oops.

Re: Rail Replacement bus - OK, but I prefer the train.
Posted by LiskeardRich at 20:02, 3rd January 2025
 
The 4 vehicles my employer are supplying from down here in Devon for this rail replacement do have toilets! You just got unlucky having one without a loo I guess

 
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